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It is INTELLECTUALLY & ANALYTICALLY DISHONEST to rank fighters with NO FIGHT FOOTAGE

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  • #21
    Originally posted by DTMB View Post
    ohh you really prove me wrong there DAN with your top 5 list.

    very extensive sampling.
    Do you know the race of those fighters?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      It's funny because the further someone goes into an ATG list, the less white fighters show up.
      you should see his list.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Do you know the race of those fighters?
        yes.

        race is just part of the problem.

        the bigger problem is time period and the fact that athletes of that time are not as good as athletes of modern time AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO FIGHT FOOTAGE.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by DTMB View Post
          you should see his list.
          My list? Let's take a look shall we;

          Ray Robinson
          Harry Greb
          Sam Langford
          Ezzard Charles
          Henry Armstrong
          Archie Moore
          Carlos Monzon
          Muhammad Ali
          Joe Louis
          Willie Pep
          Pernell Whitaker
          Joe Gans
          Benny Leonard
          Ray Leoanrd
          Alexis Arguello
          Bob Fitzsimmons
          Emile Griffith
          Mickey Walker
          Eder Jofre
          Jose Napoles
          Maxie Rosenbloom
          Gene Tunney
          Jimmy Mclarnin
          Roberto Duran
          Barney Ross
          Joe Walcott
          Tommy Hearns
          Marvin Hagler
          Holman Williams
          Charley Burley
          Kid Gavilan
          Sandy Saddler
          Billy Conn
          Carlos Oritz
          Terry McGovern
          **** Tiger
          Harold Johnson
          Julio Cesar Chavez
          Jake Lamotta.

          39 fighters there, no particular order.

          Would you like to count the number of white fighters there in comparison to non-white?

          Considering, you know, it's a race thing. And it's just a way to have white fighters as the best.

          Please, do the honours.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by DTMB View Post
            yes.

            race is just part of the problem.

            the bigger problem is time period and the fact that athletes of that time are not as good as athletes of modern time AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO FIGHT FOOTAGE.
            I'm not so sure you do

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            • #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              My list? Let's take a look shall we;

              Ray Robinson
              Harry Greb
              Sam Langford
              Ezzard Charles
              Henry Armstrong
              Archie Moore
              Carlos Monzon
              Muhammad Ali
              Joe Louis
              Willie Pep
              Pernell Whitaker
              Joe Gans
              Benny Leonard
              Ray Leoanrd
              Alexis Arguello
              Bob Fitzsimmons
              Emile Griffith
              Mickey Walker
              Eder Jofre
              Jose Napoles
              Maxie Rosenbloom
              Gene Tunney
              Jimmy Mclarnin
              Roberto Duran
              Barney Ross
              Joe Walcott
              Tommy Hearns
              Marvin Hagler
              Holman Williams
              Charley Burley
              Kid Gavilan
              Sandy Saddler
              Billy Conn
              Carlos Oritz
              Terry McGovern
              **** Tiger
              Harold Johnson
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              Jake Lamotta.

              39 fighters there, no particular order.

              Would you like to count the number of white fighters there in comparison to non-white?

              Considering, you know, it's a race thing. And it's just a way to have white fighters as the best.

              Please, do the honours.

              read my last post.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                I'm not so sure you do
                im sure i know you know im sure.

                carry on.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DTMB View Post
                  read my last post.
                  You said "You should see his list" as a direct response to another poster highlighting the race issue.

                  Well, go ahead. My list is there.

                  Show him why he should "See my list".

                  Surely, according to your allegations I should have more white fighters than anything else, right?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    You said "You should see his list" as a direct response to another poster highlighting the race issue.

                    Well, go ahead. My list is there.

                    Show him why he should "See my list".

                    Surely, according to your allegations I should have more white fighters than anything else, right?

                    having the majority of black fighters on your list doesnt take away the fact that a lot of these old school fighters are held to great status DESPITE NOT HAVING FIGHT FOOTAGE because race along with the time period they participated in ie mob controlled era and a inferior era athletically.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by DTMB View Post
                      having the majority of black fighters on your list doesnt take away the fact that a lot of these old school fighters are held to great status DESPITE NOT HAVING FIGHT FOOTAGE because race along with the time period they participated in ie mob controlled era and a inferior era athletically.
                      You genuinely don't know the race of most of those fighters, do you?

                      And if the "Majority of fighters on my list" are black then why did you say to Bojangles "You should see his list" as a direct response to the "Race issue"?

                      The hole you're digging is getting quite deep at this point. Just so you know.

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