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It is INTELLECTUALLY & ANALYTICALLY DISHONEST to rank fighters with NO FIGHT FOOTAGE

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  • #81
    Not always. You can rank on stats but if you do that you also have to give more consideration to the stats of the guys you actually have footage for. Just because you haven't actually seem someone fight doesn't mean they aren't a great fighter.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
      During his title run it was actually the best he good get, still not outstanding by any means though.

      For his first 30 or so fights though, yeah it was atrocious.
      Exactly, he couldn't get anything better. If boxing was the biggest sport why did they have such a shortage of good athletes? Jack Dempsey seemed to think boxing was dying back then. Looking at Rocky's record makes me think he would have had good reason to think that.

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      • #83
        athletes of today are better than athletes of the 1920s,30s,40s, etc...

        As modernity spawned better medicine, sports science, technology, nutrition, knowledge etc. and as professional sports became the massive corporate monster that it is now, being a pro athlete became a whole new ball game.

        Young athletes are targeted and trained before they even hit puberty. Parents spend thousands of dollars to send their athletically inclined child to sports academys which basically is preparatory professional academies and start aggressively planning their pro careers.

        Athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster now than they were back then. NFL physical statistics are evidence of this. Just watch the nfl combine. Just watch the olympics as 100m times continue to drop.

        There's no denying it.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by croz View Post
          Of slavery? Yeah there is. WTF?
          Show me 120 hours of it.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by El Gallo Negro! View Post
            Show me 120 hours of it.
            lol has to be 120 hrs ? is that a prerequisite for it to be a historical fact?

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            • #86


              1930s boxing.

              These are the types that are held in such ridiculous high esteem.

              GTFO.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by DTMB View Post


                1930s boxing.

                These are the types that are held in such ridiculous high esteem.

                GTFO.
                larry stop being ignorant

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                • #88


                  look at this. i dont see how either of these guys can beat floyd or manny.

                  i just dont.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by DTMB View Post
                    athletes of today are better than athletes of the 1920s,30s,40s, etc...

                    As modernity spawned better medicine, sports science, technology, nutrition, knowledge etc. and as professional sports became the massive corporate monster that it is now, being a pro athlete became a whole new ball game.

                    Young athletes are targeted and trained before they even hit puberty. Parents spend thousands of dollars to send their athletically inclined child to sports academys which basically is preparatory professional academies and start aggressively planning their pro careers.

                    Athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster now than they were back then. NFL physical statistics are evidence of this. Just watch the nfl combine. Just watch the olympics as 100m times continue to drop.

                    There's no denying it.
                    There's no denying that for other sports, I agree, but boxing is a sport where this doesn't apply nearly to the same degree IMO, outside of heavyweights. The other weight divisions are the same size today they were 50 or 60 years ago, and they are not really that less athletic. They definitely had more stamina back then, and overall better technique.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
                      larry stop being ignorant
                      keep calling names while i keep posting videos of people like the one in your avi or close enough to its time period.



                      1900s.

                      smdh....

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