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    #191
    Originally posted by lparm
    Tell you what son go outside and get some fresh scottish air you've been on this forum far too much. You joined 2 years after me and have about twice as many posts. You're obsessed like an addict looking for their next fix. So put down the mouse, step away from the keyboard and enjoy the sunshine.

    Don't be afraid of the outside it won't hurt you.


    Very original sir what are you like 16 years old or something?

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    • lparm
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      #192
      Originally posted by Barnburner


      Very original sir what are you like 16 years old or something?


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        #193
        Ray Robinson
        Harry Greb
        Sam Langford
        Ezzard Charles
        Henry Armstrong
        Archie Moore
        Carlos Monzon
        Muhammad Ali
        Joe Louis
        Willie Pep
        Pernell Whitaker
        Joe Gans
        Benny Leonard
        Ray Leoanrd
        Alexis Arguello
        Bob Fitzsimmons
        Emile Griffith
        Mickey Walker
        Eder Jofre
        Jose Napoles
        Maxie Rosenbloom
        Gene Tunney
        Jimmy Mclarnin
        Roberto Duran
        Barney Ross
        Joe Walcott
        Tommy Hearns
        Marvin Hagler
        Holman Williams
        Charley Burley
        Kid Gavilan
        Sandy Saddler
        Billy Conn
        Carlos Oritz
        Terry McGovern
        **** Tiger
        Harold Johnson
        Julio Cesar Chavez
        Jake Lamotta.


        i think pacquiao comes around where ali is

        i mean, if one has ali there, pacquiao should be somewhere close by
        ali beat the top rated guys, top rated yea, but limited guys, probabley gets ranked as he does because of his slogan
        people pick apart everyones resume nowadays but not the guys of the past, i guess old news is old, no point going into detail about their wins? and since a group started ranking ali high, it became kind of instinctual, a way to get your opinion paid attention to, human nature, same thing probabley applies to alot of others on that list

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          #194
          Originally posted by jtiger777
          u give him credit for the 154 division title?
          When you started pro boxing at the age of 16 (minimum weight 105) and won a title at 154 against an opponent who has 17 lbs weight advantage over you, only the floydiots won't give you any credit. Their pea size brains won't be able to comprehend/process this gigantic information.
          Last edited by whirlwind; 10-29-2012, 12:02 PM.

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            #195
            Originally posted by whirlwind
            When you started pro boxing at the age of 16 (minimum weight 105) and won a title at 154 against an opponent who has 17 lbs weight advantage over you, only the floydiots won't give you any credit. Their pea size brains won't be able to comprehend/process this gigantic information.
            WELL im not here for the namecalling n all the other stuff but to respond to u in a decent manner, the circumstances forbid me from giving him credit for being a champ in that division, other than that and a few other minor things hes a great fighter and has some outstanding accomplishments

            thanks brother and grow up soon

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              #196
              Originally posted by Defututus
              Ray Robinson
              Harry Greb
              Sam Langford
              Ezzard Charles
              Henry Armstrong
              Archie Moore
              Carlos Monzon
              Muhammad Ali
              Joe Louis
              Willie Pep
              Pernell Whitaker
              Joe Gans
              Benny Leonard
              Ray Leoanrd
              Alexis Arguello
              Bob Fitzsimmons
              Emile Griffith
              Mickey Walker
              Eder Jofre
              Jose Napoles
              Maxie Rosenbloom
              Gene Tunney
              Jimmy Mclarnin
              Roberto Duran
              Barney Ross
              Joe Walcott
              Tommy Hearns
              Marvin Hagler
              Holman Williams
              Charley Burley
              Kid Gavilan
              Sandy Saddler
              Billy Conn
              Carlos Oritz
              Terry McGovern
              **** Tiger
              Harold Johnson
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              Jake Lamotta.


              i think pacquiao comes around where ali is

              i mean, if one has ali there, pacquiao should be somewhere close by
              ali beat the top rated guys, top rated yea, but limited guys, probabley gets ranked as he does because of his slogan
              people pick apart everyones resume nowadays but not the guys of the past, i guess old news is old, no point going into detail about their wins? and since a group started ranking ali high, it became kind of instinctual, a way to get your opinion paid attention to, human nature, same thing probabley applies to alot of others on that list
              Ali beat 3 bonafide top 10 Heavyweights and a couple of Top 20's. Coupled with him making like 22 defenses or something, his longevity, fighting past prime, beating the highest percentage of top 10 ranked fighters in the history of the sport etc etc.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Barnburner
                Ali beat 3 bonafide top 10 Heavyweights and a couple of Top 20's. Coupled with him making like 22 defenses or something, his longevity, fighting past prime, beating the highest percentage of top 10 ranked fighters in the history of the sport etc etc.
                and pacquiao doesn't come close to that?
                morales, barrera, marquez and even cotto, they dont come close to frazier, foreman, liston or norton?

                and instead of defenses it's going up 8 weightclasses, still not worth as much?

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Defututus
                  and pacquiao doesn't come close to that?
                  morales, barrera, marquez and even cotto, they dont come close to frazier, foreman, liston or norton?

                  and instead of defenses it's going up 8 weightclasses, still not worth as much?
                  I never said it wasn't you can have your own opinion on that.

                  The stat about beating the highest % of top 10 ranked fighters is a very important one though.

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                  • lparm
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Barnburner
                    I never said it wasn't you can have your own opinion on that.

                    The stat about beating the highest % of top 10 ranked fighters is a very important one though.
                    At 130 Manny beat the 1 ,2, 3 guys. By today's standards it almost unthinkable to fight the top 3 and beat them all. Even ward with all the praise he gets hasn't beaten the top 3 to his title.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Barnburner
                      I never said it wasn't you can have your own opinion on that.

                      The stat about beating the highest % of top 10 ranked fighters is a very important one though.
                      ok...........

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