matthyse did not get robbed against judah

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  • deanrw
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    #61
    Originally posted by Evil_Meat
    IMO the Judah fight was very close and shoudn't be called a robbery, but the Alexander fight... THAT is a robbery.
    That is how I basically saw it. I had the Judah fight a draw myself and I had had Lucas beating Alexander by 3 points

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    • UTEP
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      #62
      Can anybody here honestly give round's 7 and 9 to Zab Judah like Harold Lederman did??? The funny thing is that Lederman still had Mathysse winning the fight in the end, even though he gave round's 7 and 9 to Zab when it was clear as day that Mathysse won those.


      Last edited by UTEP; 10-26-2012, 12:19 PM.

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      • richardt
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        #63
        Originally posted by 9 TREY GKB
        That IS fact is that judah clearly outboxed lucas.
        No, that's called an opinion, fool. And scoring the fight for Bradley was the last nail in your coffin.

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        • Martinplateado
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          #64
          show us your scorecard round by round

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          • intoccabile
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            #65
            Originally posted by 9 TREY GKB
            man i dont rite them down but you gotta be blind to think both were robberys. judah clearly outboxed him and alexander had a higher sucessful workrate against him
            This has to be a joke.,

            IN the judah fight, Lucas landed body jabs all fight effectively before turning it on. Judah had several rounds where he did **** all, just triple jabbed and turned. None of which would land, while Matthysse landed HIS jabs to the gut and had effective pressure on his side.

            The same can be said for teh Alexander fight. KNockdowns also went into Mathysse's favor.

            You're blind if you thought Judah outboxed him, please, I challenge you, link the fight and score it.

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            • Primo De Rivera
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              #66
              I was ringside at the fight in Newark, and Matthyse got robed... and the majority of the people at the Prudential thought the same...

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              • Larry the boss
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                #67
                He is another one of those fighters who can do no wrong,no matter what

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by liraj
                  Can anybody here honestly give round's 7 and 9 to Zab Judah like Harold Lederman did??? The funny thing is that Lederman still had Mathysse winning the fight in the end, even though he gave round's 7 and 9 to Zab when it was clear as day that Mathysse won those.


                  Very nice clear video there.

                  Watching the fight again that fight was so close that it could had gone either way.

                  People have the tendency not to score jabs

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                  • richardt
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by intoccabile
                    IN the judah fight, Lucas landed body jabs all fight effectively before turning it on. Judah had several rounds where he did **** all, just triple jabbed and turned. None of which would land, while Matthysse landed HIS jabs to the gut and had effective pressure on his side.
                    It is obvious, anyone, and the judges included who scored the fight for Judah DO NOT score body blows and this is too common. Lucas was consistently landing body blows too.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by richardt
                      It is obvious, anyone, and the judges included who scored the fight for Judah DO NOT score body blows and this is too common. Lucas was consistently landing body blows too.
                      Hold on now. Like the guy said above their are people who don't score jabs as well. Defense is also one of the four scoring criteria which you almost never hear get mentioned when people are reviewing fights. There's a lot more factors to look for than just who hits harder.

                      The bias goes both ways.

                      The range of possible scorecards for the Matthysse vs. Judah could easily have both guys winning. If you can't accept that its just 100% pure bias in favor of a certain fighter or a certain style. Point, blank, period.

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