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  • #71
    funny he says mathyssee is just a regular fighter because to me that what garcia seems to be,just a regular fighter who ko'd an old fighter and was losing to khan until he closed his eyes and threw a punch on khans temple.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      Good posts man. I think these cats just don't like Garcia. If Judah and Alexander got off the hook from Matthysse then I'm giving Garcia a shot at beating him. I just don't see anyone at 140 walking through more than one of them hooks placed perfect on the chin.
      Originally posted by simms601 View Post
      OMG! One more awful comment like that buddy and I'm reporting you. LMAO! Are you telling me their hasn't been a fighter in history to be hurt and come back and stop his opponent? Hmmm, let's see! Trinidad stopped Campas after he was dropped and hurt in the 3rd round. Hmmm, who else? Bowe stopped Holyfield in their 3rd fight after being seriously hurt in the 6th round of that fight. Who else? Hmmm, Vincent Pettway knocked out (literally) Simon Brown after he was dropped in the previous round. WTF are you talking about? And watch the fight again buddy, Soto hurt Lucas. If you had any kind of eye for boxing you would have noticed that. Tell me this, did you watch Mayweather/Cotto? In waht round did Cotto hurt Mayweather and didn't realize he had done so? Don't worry I'll wait. This will let me know if you have an eye for boxing...

      What you guys don't realize is Garcia barely beat Kendall Holt; so Holt was able to walk through those left hands. Nate Campbell also took those left hands very well. In the same breath, Garcia has vastly improved since those fights.

      Just as Garcia, Mathysse has improved since the Judah and Alexander fights and is making mental points before the bouts not to leave the fight in the judges hands.

      Now let's assess the situation. Does Mathysse have a better chin than Morales and Khan? I think so. Heck, Holt and Campbell made it. I don't think Garcia is some knockout king. I think he's very good at timing his punches and he does have a lot of power. But I don't think his power would carry over like a few people think it would against someone with a proven chin like Mathysse or Rios. If it does, then we should anoint Garcia as the KO king, but until then, we might as well call Breidis Prescott the KO king also, but instead he KO'd Khan worse than Garcia did.

      Point is, both fighters have vastly improved since their bouts with Holt/Campbell/Judah/Alexander. But if we're going off each fighters most significant wins, I don't think a TKO over Khan and KO over Morales means Garcia can hurt Mathysse because like I said, Campbell and Holt took same those shots just fine.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by wizard king View Post
        You are still on that crack I see, iam saying in thier fight, soto didn't hurt Lucas because if he did soto would finished him, get off the crack,crack head
        OMG! You are ******ed! Did I say he was seriously hurt? Or did I say he hurt him? Did I say that Soto realized he hurt him? Did I or Did I not say Matthysse did a good job of playing it off? LOL. Just cause someone gets hurt doesn't mean they'll finish the guy off. Mosley didn't finish off Mayweather. Mayweather didn't finish off Cotto. Dude you should stop. No, no, you NEED to stop...

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Lorily View Post
          Pot... say hello to the kettle. Kettle... say hello to the pot.
          I'm saying though. Garcia is like the most regular fighter of all time.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
            What you guys don't realize is Garcia barely beat Kendall Holt; so Holt was able to walk through those left hands. Nate Campbell also took those left hands very well. In the same breath, Garcia has vastly improved since those fights.

            Just as Garcia, Mathysse has improved since the Judah and Alexander fights and is making mental points before the bouts not to leave the fight in the judges hands.

            Now let's assess the situation. Does Mathysse have a better chin than Morales and Khan? I think so. Heck, Holt and Campbell made it. I don't think Garcia is some knockout king. I think he's very good at timing his punches and he does have a lot of power. But I don't think his power would carry over like a few people think it would against someone with a proven chin like Mathysse or Rios. If it does, then we should anoint Garcia as the KO king, but until then, we might as well call Breidis Prescott the KO king also, but instead he KO'd Khan worse than Garcia did.

            Point is, both fighters have vastly improved since their bouts with Holt/Campbell/Judah/Alexander. But if we're going off each fighters most significant wins, I don't think a TKO over Khan and KO over Morales means Garcia can hurt Mathysse because like I said, Campbell and Holt took same those shots just fine.

            Very well put. Couldn't have said it any better myself. That's why I'm mystified at this Garcia praise like he's the new bone collector of 140. What was he doing before he TKO'd china chinned Khan??
            Last edited by timboslice708; 10-21-2012, 05:07 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
              funny he says mathyssee is just a regular fighter because to me that what garcia seems to be,just a regular fighter who ko'd an old fighter and was losing to khan until he closed his eyes and threw a punch on khans temple.
              Yeah that was a lucky shot. Garcia keeps landing lucky left hands, he must have a four leaf clover in his trunks or something.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JKidd2624 View Post
                Be a hell of a fight, but I'd take Lucas. Garcia was getting hammered with straight rights from Khan, and Matthysse throws his with far more power to both the head and body.

                His timing nullified the speed of both Judah and Alexander - two guys just as, or faster than Garcia, so he knows how to deal with fast guys.

                I doubt we see the fight though. Very high risk for Danny after destroying the Mexican legend, and very little reward in fighting the most dangerous guy in the division who is really only known to the hardcores of the sport, despite 3 or 4 appearances on HBO/Showtime.
                But Khan got figured out and dropped 4 times before being stopped.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                  Yeah that was a lucky shot. Garcia keeps landing lucky left hands, he must have a four leaf clover in his trunks or something.
                  Those weren't lucky shots, but look at who the opponents were. It would've happened to Khan sooner or later. Whether it be Garcia or Matthysse. Morales was weight drained, and didn't look at all like the Morales that fought Garcia in their first fight. Not to mention the dude shouldn't even be in the ring fighting at 140 in the first place.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    What you guys don't realize is Garcia barely beat Kendall Holt; so Holt was able to walk through those left hands. Nate Campbell also took those left hands very well. In the same breath, Garcia has vastly improved since those fights.

                    Just as Garcia, Mathysse has improved since the Judah and Alexander fights and is making mental points before the bouts not to leave the fight in the judges hands.

                    Now let's assess the situation. Does Mathysse have a better chin than Morales and Khan? I think so. Heck, Holt and Campbell made it. I don't think Garcia is some knockout king. I think he's very good at timing his punches and he does have a lot of power. But I don't think his power would carry over like a few people think it would against someone with a proven chin like Mathysse or Rios. If it does, then we should anoint Garcia as the KO king, but until then, we might as well call Breidis Prescott the KO king also, but instead he KO'd Khan worse than Garcia did.

                    Point is, both fighters have vastly improved since their bouts with Holt/Campbell/Judah/Alexander. But if we're going off each fighters most significant wins, I don't think a TKO over Khan and KO over Morales means Garcia can hurt Mathysse because like I said, Campbell and Holt took same those shots just fine.
                    I hear and see your point but what makes Garcia a good fighter is his ring smarts, adaptability and being able to make adjustments. Counter punchers are always a problem for any pressure fighter. Matthysse is a solid fighter but I lean towards Garcia because he is just a thinker and fighters that can think during a fight are just a problem for any fighter. I haven't read one reason why people think Matthysse would beat Garcia down other than he has power and a chin. How many fighters had power and a chin and got out boxed, knocked out or outclassed? I will always favor the technical fighter than just a power, pressure brawler because in order for a pressure fighter to be effective they have to get their opponent to fight their fight, like Rios did Alvarado.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by timboslice708 View Post
                      Very well put. Couldn't have said it any better myself. That's why I'm mystified at this Garcia praise like he's the new bone collector of 140. What was he doing before he TKO'd china chinned Khan??
                      Hard hitting Maidana couldn't KO China chinned Khan like Garcia did and Maidana is a feared power puncher.

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