Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia: Matthysse is Just a Regular Tough Guy

[simms601]

What you guys don't realize is Garcia barely beat Kendall Holt; so Holt was able to walk through those left hands. Nate Campbell also took those left hands very well. In the same breath, Garcia has vastly improved since those fights.

Just as Garcia, Mathysse has improved since the Judah and Alexander fights and is making mental points before the bouts not to leave the fight in the judges hands.

Now let's assess the situation. Does Mathysse have a better chin than Morales and Khan? I think so. Heck, Holt and Campbell made it. I don't think Garcia is some knockout king. I think he's very good at timing his punches and he does have a lot of power. But I don't think his power would carry over like a few people think it would against someone with a proven chin like Mathysse or Rios. If it does, then we should anoint Garcia as the KO king, but until then, we might as well call Breidis Prescott the KO king also, but instead he KO'd Khan worse than Garcia did.

Point is, both fighters have vastly improved since their bouts with Holt/Campbell/Judah/Alexander. But if we're going off each fighters most significant wins, I don't think a TKO over Khan and KO over Morales means Garcia can hurt Mathysse because like I said, Campbell and Holt took same those shots just fine.

The only issue I have with comparing the fights is Campbell is a whiz defensively. He's crafty and Garcia didn't land any big shots on Campbell, he simply outworked Campbell. If you watch that fight, Campbell using the shoulder roll and catching many of Garcia's left hooks on the glove or ducking them. The Holt fight I actually saw as a UD for Garcia, but the judges saw an SD. Holt didn't deserve a SD because he just wasn't active enough. And I'm in agreement that both fighters have improved since then, but in my opinion Garcia has fought the better competition. I've never been high on Alexander because he is ridiculously flawed, his athleticism saves him in his fights. Judah, the most experienced fighter Matthysse has ever faced managed the pace up until the knockdown. I still see Garcia beating Matthysse.

[GRUSTLER]

Those weren't lucky shots, but look at who the opponents were. It would've happened to Khan sooner or later. Whether it be Garcia or Matthysse. Morales was weight drained, and didn't look at all like the Morales that fought Garcia in their first fight. Not to mention the dude shouldn't even be in the ring fighting at 140 in the first place.

Ooooh now they weren't lucky but rather the opponents.

[daggum]

What you guys don't realize is Garcia barely beat Kendall Holt; so Holt was able to walk through those left hands. Nate Campbell also took those left hands very well. In the same breath, Garcia has vastly improved since those fights.

Just as Garcia, Mathysse has improved since the Judah and Alexander fights and is making mental points before the bouts not to leave the fight in the judges hands.

Now let's assess the situation. Does Mathysse have a better chin than Morales and Khan? I think so. Heck, Holt and Campbell made it. I don't think Garcia is some knockout king. I think he's very good at timing his punches and he does have a lot of power. But I don't think his power would carry over like a few people think it would against someone with a proven chin like Mathysse or Rios. If it does, then we should anoint Garcia as the KO king, but until then, we might as well call Breidis Prescott the KO king also, but instead he KO'd Khan worse than Garcia did.

Point is, both fighters have vastly improved since their bouts with Holt/Campbell/Judah/Alexander. But if we're going off each fighters most significant wins, I don't think a TKO over Khan and KO over Morales means Garcia can hurt Mathysse because like I said, Campbell and Holt took same those shots just fine.

garcia won that fight easily 9 rounds to 3. garcia was leading in that fight because holt is strictly a counter puncher and throws less punches than randall bailey.

[PETUFF]

Lucky punch hahaha ....let me laugh be ready we going to see a lot of those lucky punch ....matthysse no match for Danny

[simms601]

Hard hitting Maidana couldn't KO China chinned Khan like Garcia did and Maidana is a feared power puncher.

You gotta good point there....

[PETUFF]

put him against Judah

[PACnPBFsuck]

Hard hitting Maidana couldn't KO China chinned Khan like Garcia did and Maidana is a feared power puncher.

but, but, but..........

[Jack Napier]

fuck Garcia
if he takes Zab over Lucas citing Lucas' non legitimacy, he's a joke
Lucas shouldn't have the 2 "losses" he has
and still, who cares? he'd kick Garcia and his dad's asses

[BoxingGenius27]

garcia won that fight easily 9 rounds to 3. garcia was leading in that fight because holt is strictly a counter puncher and throws less punches than randall bailey.

We were talking about taking that left hook and guys that have stood up to it unlike Khan and Morales.

I hear and see your point but what makes Garcia a good fighter is his ring smarts, adaptability and being able to make adjustments. Counter punchers are always a problem for any pressure fighter. Matthysse is a solid fighter but I lean towards Garcia because he is just a thinker and fighters that can think during a fight are just a problem for any fighter. I haven't read one reason why people think Matthysse would beat Garcia down other than he has power and a chin. How many fighters had power and a chin and got out boxed, knocked out or outclassed? I will always favor the technical fighter than just a power, pressure brawler because in order for a pressure fighter to be effective they have to get their opponent to fight their fight, like Rios did Alvarado.

I really don't think Garcia is a better "boxer" than Olusegun. Garcia rarely uses movement, but prefers to stand and trade. He's not lightning fast like Khan, but he's faster than Morales so I don't even think he's faster than Olusegun. He has a descent jab, but prefers to keep his hands down a lot and gets hit/countered himself; not to mention he cuts, swells and bruises easily.

I haven't really seen him fight a pressure fighter like Mathysse, but I've seen Mathysse fight better boxers than Garcia. I just don't see Garcia as a boxer; he's more of a counterpuncher. Khan could've easily outboxed him and was outboxing him until Garcia landed the fight changing counter. I haven't seen Garcia really fight on the inside besides his toe to toe slugfest with Morales.

With that said, my assessment is this. Garcia won't outbox Mathysse because he's not really that great of a boxer. He definitely won't outstrike Mathysse on the inside nor do I think he can hurt him. I see Mathysse going to the body early and closing the distance and turning the fight into a slug fest.

Regarding Rios making Alvarado fight his fight, I don't understand that comment because Alvarado likes to go toe to toe anyway; that is his fight. Problem with that is, Alvarado just wasn't as strong as Rios at doing so; not because Rios made Alvarado fight his fight.

[PETUFF]

Garcia is learning in every fight ...he is a hard hitting guy ...watch out 140 there a new sheriff in town