Comments Thread For: Haye: I've Agreed To Vitali's Terms, Let's Do The Fight

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  • B-Bomber
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    #101
    Originally posted by Dazzaman
    Aside from Lewis whose much derided chin was actually better than many give him credit for, no one else has stood toe to toe & managed to come close to doing the business on Vitali.
    I agree with your post,

    As for Lewis' chin, it can be questioned when comparing him with legends of the sport. Comparing him to Chisora is somewhat cruel. There is simply no comparison! .

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      #102
      Originally posted by B-Bomber
      I agree with your post,

      As for Lewis' chin, it can be questioned when comparing him with legends of the sport. Comparing him to Chisora is somewhat cruel. There is simply no comparison! .
      Chisora's chin is great...what do you mean?

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        #103
        Originally posted by Superflo777
        Chisora's chin is great...what do you mean?
        I simply mean to say that Lewis (and I am not a fan of his), is a way better fighter.
        There is no comparison, on no level.

        Chisora's chin might be good in the current HW division, but -great-? . Based on what?.
        Because he lost a UD against Vitali?.

        Most of Vitali's KO's are TKO's, his last real KO was against Sosnowski.
        Chisora got Ko'ed by Haye, a former cruise weight.

        I don't think you can compare two fighters of such different caliber, no disrespect.

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          #104
          Originally posted by B-Bomber
          I simply mean to say that Lewis (and I am not a fan of his), is a way better fighter.
          There is no comparison, on no level.

          Chisora's chin might be good in the current HW division, but -great-? . Based on what?.
          Because he lost a UD against Vitali?.

          Most of Vitali's KO's are TKO's, his last real KO was against Sosnowski.
          Chisora got Ko'ed by Haye, a former cruise weight.

          I don't think you can compare two fighters of such different caliber, no disrespect.
          I'm not saying he's a better fighter in any way, only his chin is possibly better. He took Vitali's and Helenius' best shots and Haye said he has one of the toughest chins he had ever seen. Should I say his chin is worse than Lewis' one's only because Lewis is an ATG and a much better boxer? Why would I do that?

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            #105
            Originally posted by Superflo777
            I'm not saying he's a better fighter in any way, only his chin is possibly better. He took Vitali's and Helenius' best shots and Haye said he has one of the toughest chins he had ever seen. Should I say his chin is worse than Lewis' one's only because Lewis is an ATG and a much better boxer? Why would I do that?
            It is not my point either.
            You can say that Chisora's chin is better than Lewis, but there would be no point in such a debate.

            In my first post I only stated that Chisora should be compared with fighters of his level, not to ATG's like Lewis.

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              #106
              Originally posted by RossCA
              Vitali is getting away from Haye like Lewis got away from Vitali after their first fight. This is Vitali's biggest fight and he will be remembered for ducking David Haye (his biggest threat) if he never fights him.
              As it stands now Haye will be nothing more then an after thought 20 years from now and he really has no one to blame but himself.

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                #107
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                No he doesn't. Unless you're saying Wlad is now 2nd to Mayweather in defense, no he doesn't.
                He's second to Mayweather in not getting hit. Whether a purist would call what he does in order not to get hit defence is debatable.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Cuban Linx
                  Who want's the fight? It's the Brits and their entitled fan base. Whenever one fighter from GB accuses another fighter of ducking the entitled fan base goes crazy.

                  Look what happened with Khan and Bradley. The Brits were on Bradley for "ducking" Khan and looked what happened. Khan lost to Bradley's leftovers (Peterson) and then got knocked out.

                  They did the same for Wladimir and Haye, and looked what happened.

                  No surprise they do the same thing here.

                  Next thing you'll hear them saying how Kell Brook is the best in the world and deserves a Mayweather fight.
                  Is The Ring British? Is Boxingscene British? Is ESPN British? All three were saying that while Wlad would likely win easily in the end, Wlad-Haye was by far the best Heavyweight fight that could be made.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Andrew5550
                    Correct me if i'm wrong but ... Didn't Haye KO Chisora in brutal fashion; something that Chisora couldn't do?
                    Well if Chisora could KO himself in brutal fashion, that would indeed be an unusual achievement!

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