Comments Thread For: Kellerman: Donaire Creeping up on Pacquiao's P4P Rank

[HeroBando]

Sergio Martinez's KO of Paul Williams is better than what Donaire has done. People sleep on Martinez but dude has been avoided for most of his career at 154 and moved up where he is not as big as the rest of the guys and has taken 3 undefeated records and KO'd 4 opponents and out boxed a guy who out weighed him by 20LBs, got caught flush, got up and went out swinging. Ilike Donaire but to me it is too early to put that kid on a pedestal. Let him fight Rigondeaux and some other dangerous guys. Martinez is definitely over Pacquiao. Manny hasn't done anything since Cotto and even then it was at 146. Toughest fight he had was against JMM who was moving up and previously got dominated at the same weight against Mayweather. Can't agree with the tie between Martinez and Pacquiao. Martinez is dominating while Pac has not in a long time.

The both had spectacular KO2 over p4pers. Montiel was a little more accomplished at 118 than PWill at 160, but I'll give it to Sergio by a little. But Donaire 2nd, 3rd, 4th... best wins **** on Sergio's, while moving up more weight.

[subhuman]

Max needs to stop comparing these fighters to other fighters. He had some cringeworthy moments last night during both fights.

[HeroBando]

Pavlik was the middle weight champ and Williams was pretty much avoided by everyone at the time. Martinez became 2010 fighter of the year off of his Pavlik and Williams wins, so don't know what you are talking about buddy.

Baldomir was welter champ, so was Sonny Boy Jaro at 112. Doesn't mean they were p4p wins. Pavlik was thoroughly exposed and demoralized coming in. Nishioka was #1 at 122, but I don't go crazy over it. What's PWill's best win above 147 before Martinez 1, Philips?

[whoelibits]

Sergio Martinez's KO of Paul Williams is better than what Donaire has done. People sleep on Martinez but dude has been avoided for most of his career at 154 and moved up where he is not as big as the rest of the guys and has taken 3 undefeated records and KO'd 4 opponents and out boxed a guy who out weighed him by 20LBs, got caught flush, got up and went out swinging. Ilike Donaire but to me it is too early to put that kid on a pedestal. Let him fight Rigondeaux and some other dangerous guys. Martinez is definitely over Pacquiao. Manny hasn't done anything since Cotto and even then it was at 146. Toughest fight he had was against JMM who was moving up and previously got dominated at the same weight against Mayweather. Can't agree with the tie between Martinez and Pacquiao. Martinez is dominating while Pac has not in a long time.

Honestly I should have been more bold, because that's my opinion too, but I'm a Martinez fan so sometimes I wonder if I'm aggrandizing Martinez' performances in my own head.

[handsie]

I like Kellerman.. well at least I did. The dude is a sell out

How can you talk P4P and not mention Martinez? The most exciting fight out there at the minute is FMJ and Martinez.

How the F can you mention Donaire in the P4P and not mention Martinez.

Kellerman has sold out to the networks and only ramps up the popular fighters.

[Pullcounter]

its tough to look good against guys that just show up to stink out the joint... that's what is happening to pac and donaire, they guys they fight are so afraid of their speed and power, they're opponents fight in a defensive shell and only once in a while stick their necks out... but the difference is that donaire looks better when his opponents fight out of a shell.

floyd is lucky cause no one fears his power.... his opponents are more willing to take chances cause they know floyd can't stop them unless they get sucker punched.

[PAC-BOY]

He surely took Floyds spot !

[Grimgash]

He surely took Floyds spot !

So you've got Donaire at #1 p4p?

[-DSG-]

I agree with Max.

I have Pacquaio #3, Donaire #4.

If Pacquaio loses to Marquez then I'll switch them.

You have Sergio below them?

[hitking]

I guess going life and death with a past prime Cotto and sucker punching a damaged goods Ortiz is better than wins over JMM and Bradley huh

Floyd took more damage against Ortiz in 4 rounds than Pac took from JMM and Bradley combined

You're a ****ing moron.