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  • dan_cov
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    #41
    Originally posted by flem1
    Yet he can still make weight without a problem. While you're at it, why not also complain about Anselmo Moreno, this guy is taller than Nonito and walks around at 140+ lbs in between fights.

    Wait, Maroquin and Mathebula are much bigger than Nonito, why are you not ragging them?


    Because height, reach and skill levels are not the only thing to take into consideration, you've also gotta take into mind frames!

    I.E a 6ft tall could look anorexic at 11st another guy may look fairly chubby and another maybe pretty stocky and strong as an ox.

    Different people have different genetics.

    I.E Jeff Lacy is built like a barn door at 5ft10 and super middle, Felix Sturm is the same height and a small middle yet say Calderon is that height yet built like rizzla paper and couldn't swat a fly. Depends on bone density and allsorts.
    You don't have to be Hercules to crack like Tommy Hearns and vice versa

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      #42
      Originally posted by Rolph Spicer
      Good God these cuban rigondeaux nuthuggers are sad. Nonito TKOs a respected fighter like nishioka and the first thing these huggers do is menstruate on a boxing message board to convince themselves Donaire isn't a good fighter.

      LOL


      Called this before hand and I am not Cuban. I am British so put your nationalism card back in your pocket, he is a big guy picking on old, shot fighters and small scrubs as far as I am concerned. But I respect my Cuban boxers, I respect skills and precision!

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        #43
        Originally posted by Rolph Spicer
        Good God these cuban rigondeaux nuthuggers are sad. Nonito TKOs a respected fighter like nishioka and the first thing these huggers do is menstruate on a boxing message board to convince themselves Donaire isn't a good fighter.

        LOL
        it's understandable for a fighter to be scared of getting montiel'ed...narvaez did it, and vazquez jr (young fighter) did it, and now nishioka. props to mathebula though he is clearly the hungriest fighter that donaire faced since montiel.

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          #44
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          Oh no these Filipino fans will make out Arce is a real threat to the extent they'll actually do you a favour and get the bookies to give great odds!



          No sure but when he faced Navarez he ballooned too 130 something and that was in the morning, my guess is high 130s to 140 in the ring!
          montiel outweighed donaire on fight night....before nishioka , donaire fought a guy that was 4 or 5 inches taller than him and against vazquez jr he didn't look bigger at all.

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            #45
            Hahahaha, the Nishi huggers are back! Up next: Cash cow and KO artist that still has it, Jorge Arce.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Nishioka was the best 122 fighter BY FAR

              Its that simple. Donaire and rigo were ranked #2 and #3 by by RING anf their best win between eachother was Wilfredo Vasquez JR
              How is Nishioka the best 122lber by far? Cause the RING says so? Are you one of those people that goes with what the media tells you? You believe everything Fox News and CNN tells you? Theres new blood at 122 and Nishioka is NOT the best. Most proven, yes but not the best. Did he look like the best 122lber to you tonight? Or let me guess, that was Donaire's doing? Narvaez fought more than Nishioka ffs. A fkin 115lber, borderline midget.


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                #47
                Originally posted by jsfd26
                How is Nishioka the best 122lber by far? Did he look like the best 122lber to you tonight? Or let me guess, that was Donaire's doing? Narvaez fought more than Nishioka ffs. A fkin 115lber, borderline midget.
                How could you not see Nishi as the best '22lber? I mean, the sheer strength of his right hand to block those hooks... the ability to dole out 10 punches a round... the entrance music he walked in the ring to. You're crazy if you don't think he's the #1 guy in the division.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  it's understandable for a fighter to be scared of getting montiel'ed...narvaez did it, and vazquez jr (young fighter) did it, and now nishioka. props to mathebula though he is clearly the hungriest fighter that donaire faced since montiel.
                  That was more my thinking. Nishioka did what a lot of guys do. He was frozen by a guy who proves why when guys open up on him. We saw in spots after the first KD that Nishioka could have done more all night and we saw what he was worried about too. Not an exciting fight, but I thought it was a very good performance from Donaire. I think the year layoff might have played a part in early tightness, but Donaire just proved better.

                  I didn't like the way he responded on Rigo, but that's not the fight I'd like to see yet either (I'm not positive Rigo is ready professionally and I'd like to see him with some more proven stuff) so I don't care that much. I do see, the way Donaire bit on Nishi's feints, some of why the Cult of Rigo wants to find out what happens.

                  I'd personally like to see the Mares-Moreno winner next. That winner is a seasoned guy in their absolute prime. That being a long shot, a move to 126 would be intriguing and could be exciting if it came against Salido. Salido is the fight I'm thinking would be the most exciting of the bunch right now up a class title wise.

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                  • crold1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by davis828
                    Hahahaha, the Nishi huggers are back! Up next: Cash cow and KO artist that still has it, Jorge Arce.
                    The Arce fight sucks as much now as it ever has. Uugh.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by crold1
                      That was more my thinking. Nishioka did what a lot of guys do. He was frozen by a guy who proves why when guys open up on him. We saw in spots after the first KD that Nishioka could have done more all night and we saw what he was worried about too. Not an exciting fight, but I thought it was a very good performance from Donaire. I think the year layoff might have played a part in early tightness, but Donaire just proved better.

                      I didn't like the way he responded on Rigo, but that's not the fight I'd like to see yet either (I'm not positive Rigo is ready professionally and I'd like to see him with some more proven stuff) so I don't care that much. I do see, the way Donaire bit on Nishi's feints, some of why the Cult of Rigo wants to find out what happens.

                      I'd personally like to see the Mares-Moreno winner next. That winner is a seasoned guy in their absolute prime. That being a long shot, a move to 126 would be intriguing and could be exciting if it came against Salido. Salido is the fight I'm thinking would be the most exciting of the bunch right now up a class title wise.
                      I could not agree more.

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