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  • yoz
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    #21
    Originally posted by D-MiZe
    Froch doesn't beat anyone with relative ease. Normally he's the won who never wins in a fantasy match-ups but now you think he trumps DeGale and Groves easily?




    I can see Groves fighting and beating Froch soon, if promoters can agree.



    No chance to what?
    Groves is prone to cuts, so it would likely be stopped; unless, of course, he adopts Dirrell-like tactics.

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    • Weebler I
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      #22
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      LOL.

      Froch could stomp DeGale and Groves on the same night. No upside for Carl and nevermind 50/50, this wouldn't even be a 90/10 fight.
      The upside is a payday, promotion and a beatable opponent.

      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      Groves was heavily floored, rocked several times and almost stopped by Kenny Anderson.

      DeGale was all over the place several times against Wilczewski.

      Froch never wins through boxing skill, he wins through all other means. He walks through what his opponent has, breaks their spirit, he can ****...Carl Froch has mixed with, and has wins over, fighters who are light years ahead of DeGale and Groves.

      They have both struggled with average fighters and have yet to face anybody of real quality.
      Bit harsh, I'd say he wins through skill and other means. I think he beats DeGale and Groves, he spars with the latter.
      Last edited by Weebler I; 10-01-2012, 10:56 AM.

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      • gmc_rfc_06
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        #23
        Originally posted by D-MiZe
        He was knocked down from a right to the back of the head and was up in the corner by the count of 4. Groves is an open fighter too largely down to that disgusting style Booth has instilled into him. It works at times and Groves looks good but it's a disaster when facing heavy hitters like Anderson & Sierra.

        Groves was never rocked several times or that badly hurt, do you think the Sierra fight would've ever happened if so?.
        Right hand to the temple dropped him. I recall him being hurt again at the end of that round.

        I'm not knocking him for getting hurt, as he showed great heart to come back, but when you have trouble dealing with the pressure and power of Kenny Anderson, I don't think you're getting through Froch.

        Like I said, I think Froch beats both without any problems.

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        • D-MiZe
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          #24
          Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
          Right hand to the temple dropped him. I recall him being hurt again at the end of that round.

          I'm not knocking him for getting hurt, as he showed great heart to come back, but when you have trouble dealing with the pressure and power of Kenny Anderson, I don't think you're getting through Froch.

          Like I said, I think Froch beats both without any problems.
          Groves was never in trouble dealing with the pressure or power of Kenny. Instead, he was too happy to trade with Anderson and neglected his defence - which needs a lot of work on. When he boxed and moved, he was easily in control.

          Groves-Anderson was nearly 2 years ago by the way, look at how much he's improved since.

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          • Wesker115
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            #25
            Has Groves still got to rematch Anderson at some point?

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            • DonCarlos83
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              This article was published in January of this year so isn't really relevant anymore. More people watched Froch beat the hell out of Bute than watched Groves vs Degale. After that win it is clear that Froch might not be young and dynamic but he is one hell of a warrior and would mangle Degale in a way that wouldn't be at all entertaining.

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              • ddangerous
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                #27
                Originally posted by D-MiZe
                Groves hits hard enough to hurt Froch.

                He & DeGale are way more talented than Froch and whilst they may not go on to achieve what he has, they still pose big threats to him in a potential match-up. I'm not that impressed with DeGale, a gold Olympian who cannot punch, but he has boxing ability and amateur pedigree.

                Groves beat DeGale on the back foot, destroyed Paul Smith and looked good against Sierra. In what fights did DeGale & Groves show ' dodgy ' chins?

                Both are better boxers than Froch, they beat Froch in most departments apart from heart, chin and stamina. Obviously Froch has proven more as he's been a professional for much longer than Groves & DeGale but the potential is there.


                You're right, Froch got on most P4P top 20 lists with no boxing talent.

                Froch demolishes James DeGale. He "Bute"s him. I was definitely impressed with Groves in his last outing, but Cobra whoops his ass too. I'll look for you to bet if either fight gets made in the not too distant future. Froch has only been outclassed ONE time, and that was by SOG, who may very well be the P4P best in the sport right now.

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                • D-MiZe
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ddangerous


                  You're right, Froch got on most P4P top 20 lists with no boxing talent.

                  Froch demolishes James DeGale. He "Bute"s him. I was definitely impressed with Groves in his last outing, but Cobra whoops his ass too. I'll look for you to bet if either fight gets made in the not too distant future. Froch has only been outclassed ONE time, and that was by SOG, who may very well be the P4P best in the sport right now.
                  Did I say Froch had no talent?

                  Trivia: First Briton to win a medal at the amateur world boxing championships (2001), it was a bronze.

                  I'll admit that I exaggerated when I said they had ' way more ' talent but the amateur pedigree in DeGale is evident. Froch was never really seen as a prospect like Groves & DeGale are and spent his time in the shadow of Calzaghe.

                  Was in a great fight with Pascal and if Taylor had finished the fight by taking a count, things could've played out very differently.

                  Froch won't be around much longer and with Groves/DeGale on the up, a big domestic fight will most likely happen. DeGale's changed promoters and now fights on free-to-air TV, so will gain heaps of publicity. Groves was lined up for a fight with former SMW champion Stieglitz and there is talk about him fighting Abraham. He's progressing well and if his last outing is anything to go by, should be fighting a good opponent in December.

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                  • ddangerous
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by D-MiZe
                    Did I say Froch had no talent?

                    Trivia: First Briton to win a medal at the amateur world boxing championships (2001), it was a bronze.

                    I'll admit that I exaggerated when I said they had ' way more ' talent but the amateur pedigree in DeGale is evident. Froch was never really seen as a prospect like Groves & DeGale are and spent his time in the shadow of Calzaghe.

                    Was in a great fight with Pascal and if Taylor had finished the fight by taking a count, things could've played out very differently.

                    Froch won't be around much longer and with Groves/DeGale on the up, a big domestic fight will most likely happen. DeGale's changed promoters and now fights on free-to-air TV, so will gain heaps of publicity. Groves was lined up for a fight with former SMW champion Stieglitz and there is talk about him fighting Abraham. He's progressing well and if his last outing is anything to go by, should be fighting a good opponent in December.
                    If Groves gets the fight with Abraham, how do you think he will do?

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                    • PrinceNaz88
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                      #30
                      DeGale/Froch would do big money and I can see the fight happening next year if DeGale is on the verge of a World title.

                      I would go to it. I'm a DeGale fan but can't see him beating Froch at this stage. He did lose to Froch on Red or Black to be fair..

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