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  • I Love Jesus!
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    #31
    Originally posted by GAME2010
    if you are able to do all the gym work + sparring at a solid pace

    without having to do your runs and ground work...

    does it really matter??

    can a fighter just put in their gym work, bag,pads, shadowboxing, skipping etc
    ray oliviera didn't do road work. He got shot in the knee so he couldn't. He was a 12 round fighter and former world champ I believe. So yeah it can be done.

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    • D-MiZe
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      #32
      Unless you're a 5ft3 flyweight with an 84 inch reach, the power Julian Jackson and the speed of SRL - you won't go far.

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        #33
        Originally posted by akScoundrel
        No offense man, but thats a dumb question lol.
        Actually its not a dumb question. I'm in the boxing gym 3 to four times a week. I think maybe 4 times and young kid has ask this question, at first i was like what kind of question is that. Yet the kid goes my fav fighter David Haye said he doesn't really do road work he builds it all in the gym... then i was like oh i get it. So what the trainer said to him was, not all things work for all people; and never believe what a fighter says about leaving things out of his training because he could just be playing mind games on his opponent...

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          #34
          I know Toney doesn't run he's easily a 15 round fighter. Plus besides the example I gave about oliviera a lot of people have bad knees and can't run so I'm sure a lot of boxers do to. But hey if you can do it it's only going to make you better right? As long as you don't over do it.

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          • shogunn
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            #35
            Sparring/boxing and running are two completely different animals.

            There was a crosscountry runner in my gym who wanted to try sparring for the very first time, after 3 rounds he was gassed. He said he never felt so tired in his life. This guy was in tip top shape too. Getting hit and trying to avoid it can really gas someone out if theyre not in "boxing shape". I still run, and I think it helps me over boxers who dont.

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              #36
              Running to a boxer is about leg stamina and air efficiency , it should incorporate up and down hills , long straights and mixing pace between wind sprints and recovery while still jogging from those sprints , if you wanted to address those elements in a gym instead by using things like rowing machines , stair climbers and treadmills you never have to do roadwork and your conditioning will be every bit as good as roadwork .

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              • ElBossHogg™
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                #37
                its called stamina.

                When you run and condition your body then you are able to handle being tired and are able to get a seconds wind. IF you dont then you dont.

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                • daggum
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                  #38
                  let's ask zab judah

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Larry Pacquaio
                    Toney doesnt run(but look at him) and heard Chavez sr.quit doing road work as well


                    A: they are legends with supreme gifts

                    B: they weren't always known for terrific habits in between fights.

                    C: they both sparred a boatload.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Sure they could do that if they don't care about being successful~

                      Fighting in a ring against someone trying to hurt you is more tiring than just working out, so you need to get your conditioning up in every possible way so you go hard as long as possible. Skimping on any part will effect that, in shorter fights it might not come into play but as the distance goes up conditioning and preparation really become key.

                      Plus there is the whole fact of knowing what you are capable of so you can try and fight at the best pace so you don't gas out, but even then you should try and train well beyond that level because what if your opponent pushes a faster pace.
                      I agree. When a fighter gets up to the top level the guys he fights are all damn good. Not to much seperates the very best. So being in the best possible shape could make the difference between winning and losing. Hard training is a big part of the success of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Martinez, Marquez, and Bradley to name a few. They would not dream of missing road work.

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