Double Standards an at all time high

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I just don't see how Cotto was drained at 145 but Dawson wasn't at 168. Dawson was probably effected more at 168 than Cotto was at 145.

What I don't get with Ward is that if he may come up to 175 next year, why not just go and fight Dawson at 175??? It would have meant a lot more.

The same can be said for Manny when he fought Cotto. He fought Clottey at the full 147 limit in his very next fight, why not just do the same with Cotto???

Either way, it's a double standard to say one was drained and a crappy fight, while the other one was okay. And both wins by Manny and Ward were good wins, Ward's just would have meant more had he gine up in weight.

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And yes Dawson was drained and Ward doesnt get that much credit in that win..

from who? you? because he's getting tons of respect from people in boxing.

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How did Pacquiao beg? Last I recall Dawson asked Ward for a catchweight during negotiations no? At least at 170 Ward would've gotten a little more credit. And how you figured he doesn't get much credit? Ring elevated him over Martinez and some people here have him #1 over Floyd.



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why should floyd be number one? He only fought 4 times in the last 5 years and he hasn't taken on the best?
Wards last 5 have been against way better opposition then floyd

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I just don't see how Cotto was drained at 145 but Dawson wasn't at 168. Dawson was probably effected more at 168 than Cotto was at 145.

What I don't get with Ward is that if he may come up to 175 next year, why not just go and fight Dawson at 175??? It would have meant a lot more.

The same can be said for Manny when he fought Cotto. He fought Clottey at the full 147 limit in his very next fight, why not just do the same with Cotto???

Either way, it's a double standard to say one was drained and a crappy fight, while the other one was okay. And both wins by Manny and Ward were good wins, Ward's just would have meant more had he gine up in weight.

On point.. but the comparison should be with Pac/DLH and Ward/Dawson.

Pac went from LW to WW.. ODLH hadn't fought at WW for years.
Ward been fighting at SMW.. and pulled Dawson down to SMW for the first time in like 7 years I believe.

Also, people went from saying Pacquiao would get sent to the 3rd row after the first jab from Oscar (mismatch).. while many saw Ward/Dawson being competitive

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On point.. but the comparison should be with Pac/DLH and Ward/Dawson.

Pac went from LW to WW.. ODLH hadn't fought at WW for years.
Ward been fighting at SMW.. and pulled Dawson down to SMW for the first time in like 7 years I believe.

Also, people went from saying Pacquiao would get sent to the 3rd row after the first jab from Oscar (mismatch).. while many saw Ward/Dawson being competitive

Yeah but Oscar was far far far removed from being a top fighter. Dawson was at least a top fighter and in his prime.

I'm just saying guys like BushBaby say Cotto was drained at 145, than turn around and excuse Ward for bringing Dawson down to 168.

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Yeah but Oscar was far far far removed from being a top fighter. Dawson was at least a top fighter and in his prime.

True. IMO Ward would probably beat Chad anyway.. but Dawson was def. not at his best that night.

I'm just saying guys like BushBaby say Cotto was drained at 145, than turn around and excuse Ward for bringing Dawson down to 168.

Yup.. Agreed

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Dawson also asked for 170 and Ward did not oblige.

Yeah after saying he could come down to 68, Dawson changed his tune during the negotiations and asked for a catch weight. Cheap move.

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Yeah after saying he could come down to 68, Dawson changed his tune during the negotiations and asked for a catch weight. Cheap move.

dAWSON ASKED FOR 172 FIRST, then 170, then said **** it