If Mayweather fights Canelo at 154 would it be for the Ring/Lineal Title?

[kiaba360]

It just proves how young/weak the 154lb division is. Two top WWs come in and almost automatically take the top spots because of their history. Mayweather has messed up the flow of everything. As soon as he came in, the division became all about him. You got GBP gearing their baby boy in Floyd's direction without fighting any of the other contenders first.

My top 10 in no order:
Mayweather, Cotto, Canelo, K9, Lara, Molina, Vanes, Kirkland, Trout, Angulo

In order for a tight lineage to be established, these guys need to go at it, and we've had numerous match-ups with these guys already. So it's not for lack of trying. The issue is, Canelo is treated like he's above everyone else, not because of his quality of opposition, but because he's being developed into the new superstar. So naturally, everyone else (except for Cotto and Floyd) takes a back seat. Canelo is #3 because of the circumstances. He hasn't proved he's better than any of the other guys, cuz he hasn't FOUGHT them.

[hatershate]

It was EXTREMELY rare for that to ever happen. The only way they would ever let that happen is if they knew there was no chance of the #1 fighting the #2, hence why Wlad won against the #3.

Chad Dawson #1 vs. Jean Pascal #3. Glen Johnson was #2, Dawson had already beat him twice.

Oscar was how many years ago? That doesn't count since it wasn't recent. If Pacquiao went back to 135 pounds tomorrow and beat some guy on the downside of his career, would that make him #1 at 135 because he fought there one time some years ago?

That's fine, I agree with that. Even then though, Floyd's only win at that weight in recent memory is still better than the best sample from any other junior middleweight.

[ИATAS]

Chad Dawson #1 vs. Jean Pascal #3. Glen Johnson was #2, Dawson had already beat him twice.

Good memory. That also made sense.

[bojangles1987]

The ranking is what it is. Don't be so cynical. Who else should be Ranked 1,2 and 3?? Margacheato is beated and gone, we know the tragedy of PW. Floyd beat Cotto, so it wouldn't make sense to fight him again.

Having Alvarez above Lara or Molina is downright insane.

[Russian Crushin]

The Ring has had #1 vs. #3 for the championship belt for a long time. That's how Wlad won the HW title even though Vitali was #2.

There new rules are that #1 can fight #2-#5 and have it possibly be for the lineal title. But that hasn't happened yet.

Who's #2 if it isn't Cotto or Canelo? Lara? Who's best win should be Paul Williams who was fresh off getting sparked cold + a draw vs. Carlos Molina. Vanes Martirosyan? Who's best win is a washed up Ouma. Molina? Maybe if he ever got the benefit of a decision. But he hasn't. Literally ever.

Now if Lara beats Vanes, he'd a reason to ask for that spot, but still a W vs. Vanes, D vs. Molina, and robbery L vs. Williams. Is that something to write home about?

Floyd has two fights at the weight. WSD vs. De La Hoya and WUD vs. Cotto. Two whole fights and his JMW resume shits on every other single contender combined.

Thats also how Cotto won his belt as well as garcia sort of. None of those guys beat the agreed #1 or 2 guy at the time of their win while being #1 or 2

Rings rankings are a complete joke

[DuttyAlacrity]

If the #1 beat the #2 wouldnt be be the lineal champ?

Lineal title is between the agreed best 2 fighters in a division. Its that simple. It doesnt matter if the current #1 already beat what is now the #2 fighter before hand. Thats a dumb RING rule which is why it doesnt always follow the lineage

This is why the Ring sucks now. They are as bad as any belt organization

At one point they had Cotto, canelo and vanes as 1,2,3

Well the current no. 1 beat the no. 2 that's why he's no.2 so that's moot. If he beats canelo he would have beaten arguably the 2 best at 154...

[Russian Crushin]

Good memory. That also made sense.

Also Cotto #1 vs #3 Marg was for the Ring belt even tho Williams was #2 after beating Marg

[DuttyAlacrity]

Having Alvarez above Lara or Molina is downright insane.

Lara is prolly being shafted a little... Not sure about Molina

[Russian Crushin]

Well the current no. 1 beat the no. 2 that's why he's no.2 so that's moot. If he beats canelo he would have beaten arguably the 2 best at 154...

Thats not the point, the point is why is Canelo or even cotto anywhere near the top of 154? Between them they have only 2 top 10 ranked wins and both were extremely mediocre #6 ranked JMWs. All their other wins are against smaller guys, unranked guys or guys not even top 30.

[DuttyAlacrity]

Also Cotto #1 vs #3 Marg was for the Ring belt even tho Williams was #2 after beating Marg

Double chk that bro are you sure? I don't think the ring belt was on the line then.