Comments Thread For: Roach: Martinez Not Capable of a High Pace For Twelve

[demonlight]

get over it already martinez wins by ko

....is that not what I said? lolwut.

[Toltec77]

But the thing is, is that Roach is right. Martinez does take rounds off. He cannot do that this time.

You see what most don't see, and Roach also see, you need to pressure constantly and try not to give him rest, but that will be easier said then done, well anyways its going to be good, can't wait. It's all going to depend on Chavez if he is in tip top shape and ready for a war.

[SaintGeorge]

Been saying this for years.

Barker and Macklin were able to deal with him until he upped the pace/assault on them. He can't fight 12 rounds at a good pace, if he could Barker and Macklin would have been anniahalated.

Chavez will win, stop him in the 10th.

[Fetta]

Disagree with Roach here completely. Sergio has excellent stamina and endurance. His high number of late stoppages is a testament to the fact. Chavez Jr. is going to get outgunned, plain and simple. It will either he a TKO or shutout decision for Maravilla with Jr.'s face being bloodied and cut all to hell.

I agree with this. I have no idea what Martinez fights other posters have been watching

[Toltec77]

Been saying this for years.

Barker and Macklin were able to deal with him until he upped the pace/assault on them. He can't fight 12 rounds at a good pace, if he could Barker and Macklin would have been anniahalated.

Chavez will win, stop him in the 10th.

I agree, you said it well, and I see it like you do. Chavez part is that hes going to have to be in the best shape of his life, and ready for a war.

[mistermartin]

Every guy whos fought Martinez tried to stand in front of em and box him. Exept for Margarito. Pressure and power and a great chin.

Wen Sergio fought tony he was 24 or 25 yrs old. He started boxing wen he was twenty. He got paid $900 for that fight. I love Tony but the Version of tony that fought pacquiao or even the version that beat cotto woulda got the breaks beat the **** off him if he went up against SM. He hits too hard now. That was also at ww. He hit Cintron so hard w/a str left Kermit thought he got headbutted. Sergio is a very "sharp puncher" He hits hard already but it's even harder when u don't see it.

[mistermartin]

Under pressure we might see some age related decline. These are the kind of circumstances that would show it. Unrelenting smothering pressure. His conditioning might start to fail and his timing might suffer.

That's sheer speculation but at his age and with his style guys can get old overnight and the possibility always needs to be considered. Whether it's this fight or 5 fights from now it's inevitable that we see this decline.

Chavez could produce some real issues with his pressure. However he is far from unhittable and isn't exactly Pernell Whittaker. Martinez with his speed and sharpness will lead him into that left hand and we'll see how good Chavez's chin really is. He appears to have a good chin but no1 has tee'd off on him with the kind of power and speed of Sergio.

Sometimes u guys confuse age w/ wear & tear. Dude started late & barely spars in the gym. So he's not taking punishment like most fighters do. Which is really in sparring often.

[!! Shawn]

You see what most don't see, and Roach also see, you need to pressure constantly and try not to give him rest, but that will be easier said then done, well anyways its going to be good, can't wait. It's all going to depend on Chavez if he is in tip top shape and ready for a war.

You mean Like Paul Williams and Kelly Pavlik?

Chavez has never been a fighter with a stellar work rate, and he is not going to become one overnight.

[vacon04]

What Roach fails to see is that Martinez uses those rounds to his advantage. Sergio has massive stamina, and he likes to push the accelerator in the later rounds while the opponent is more tired than he is.

Also just look at Pavlik, he thought he had the fight and was dominating Sergio so he got confident and that's when Sergio started to unleash his power. Pavlik just couldn't take it, he was already playing Sergio's game and there was no way he was going to win it. Just see how he started to get closer and that's when he was caught by several punches that completely opened up his face.

[GRUSTLER]

Kelly Pavlik then was/is better than Chavez Jr now. Martinez is gonna get the KO. Every time he called it, it happened. This has got to be the most anticipated fight for me in a long time.