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  • #91
    p4p is a popularity contest...

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    • #92
      My new P4P Rankings
      _____________________
      1) Mayweather
      2) Ward
      3) Martinez
      4) Pacquiao

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      • #93
        Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
        My new P4P Rankings
        _____________________
        1) Mayweather
        2) Ward
        3) Martinez
        4) Pacquiao
        Agreed!

        Kessler 5th.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
          My new P4P Rankings
          _____________________
          1) Mayweather
          2) Ward
          3) Martinez
          4) Pacquiao
          see what I'm saying? popularity contest

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          • #95
            Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
            i have no problem with that. ward's work in the super six & last night warrants serious consideration.

            from 2009-2012, ward fought and defeated top-tier fighters back to back.
            no "stay busy" fights.... no "gimme" fights...

            pac remained #1 even though his best was in 2008. ever since, his performances were lackluster and against "big" names instead of relevant threats. floyd fell off due to inactivity and choice of opponents. donaire had some great wins sprinkled with stay-busy fights against nobodies... sergio was in eurobum land fighting nobodies to keep busy... klit bros stomped out their division against nobodies (not their fault)...

            if i judge p4p based on "what have you done for me lately?", then i would have ward on top... 2011 fighter of the year wasnt enough???? for me, it is.

            but if we were to judge based on whole career and popularity, then we have floyd, pac, jmm, b-hop, etc. on top.
            What big names do you speak of for Manny? If you say manny beat bradley then i'll say JMM beat manny 3 times. Only thing i see on mannys resume is Cotto at catch. Manny at top 5 is laughable.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by FRANKGWJ View Post
              My whole point is, Ward has beat all the TOP competition very EASILY!!! When the top three P4P has lost or struggled with top competition!!!
              Who'd Mayweather struggle with again? Also Sergio's been on a tear and just starts slow. Pac I honestly can't have in the top 3 anymore he just looks like he doesn't have it any more. I'd have to say Floyd, Andre, Sergio in that order.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Jubei View Post
                He is a one division champ while pacquiao and mayweather are multi division champs, they beat everyone in multiple weight classes, ward just fought at SMW and 90% of his fights are in his backyard.
                So you don't think Hagler is an ATG right?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by FRANKGWJ View Post
                  I guess beating the best light heavy weight champion in the world is not impressive? SMDH!!!!
                  ...and what weight did Ward beat the best light heavywight champion in the world at?

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