Why not P4P #1 Andre Ward

[bojangles1987]

Ward maybe deserves to be #4. But then you could ask why both Klitschkos aren't up there, considering they have alot better resumes in one division, because Ward is only ranked at SMW and "P4P" generally means multi-divisional (fighting opponents at their natural weights).

Technically, JMM has more business in "P4P" top 5 than Martinez.

The Klitschkos above Ward.

[D-MiZe]

His win over Dawson really isn't that significant or great.

[Johnwoo8686]

I think Ward is definitely p4p number 3. He's surpassed Sergio in my book by beating top competition at Super Middle and solidified his position by then knocking out the light heavy weight champion of the world. He made it all look easy as well. I still have Manny at number 2 because of all the accomplishments he has achieved in the sport. His last loss was a robbery and Marquez has always given him a tough time. One bad night is not enough to drop the guy down several places.

At 28 Ward is closing in on the number one spot fast but I don't think he's there quite yet. Let him mix it up with some light heavy weights AT the light heavy weight limit and then we can voice our opinion.

[elfag]

1 Money Mayweather
2 JMM
3 Ward
4 Sexy Sergio
5 Donaire
6 Berto
7 Pacquaio
8 Vitali
9 Wladimir
10 Froch

[waxfondler]

i have no problem with that. ward's work in the super six & last night warrants serious consideration.

from 2009-2012, ward fought and defeated top-tier fighters back to back.
no "stay busy" fights.... no "gimme" fights...

pac remained #1 even though his best was in 2008. ever since, his performances were lackluster and against "big" names instead of relevant threats. floyd fell off due to inactivity and choice of opponents. donaire had some great wins sprinkled with stay-busy fights against nobodies... sergio was in eurobum land fighting nobodies to keep busy... klit bros stomped out their division against nobodies (not their fault)...

if i judge p4p based on "what have you done for me lately?", then i would have ward on top... 2011 fighter of the year wasnt enough???? for me, it is.

but if we were to judge based on whole career and popularity, then we have floyd, pac, jmm, b-hop, etc. on top.

[FRANKGWJ]

His win over Dawson really isn't that significant or great.

I guess beating the best light heavy weight champion in the world is not impressive? SMDH!!!!

[Bushbaby]

The last time Pacman impressed against a solid foe was Clottey. That's not enough to be pfp in 2012.

Floyd did beat Ortiz & Cotto. Both decent wins, but not to brag about.

Ward's domination of the super six & destruction of Dawson is the greatest accomplishments of any top fighter lately & he deserves the #1 spot imo.

Pfp isn't based on resume. So beating Barrera a half decade ago isn't enough to warrant pfp supremacy now.

[Japanese Boxing]

His win over Dawson really isn't that significant or great.

It was the most significant fight in American boxing in recent memory. Just because it didn't get the media's attention doesn't make it worth any less.

[Johnny Dough]

Can any body give me 1 reason why Andre Ward should not be P4P number 1. Look at all the competition he has fought in the last 3 year and the way he has beat them easily!!! Bika, Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Green, Maranda and now he stops BAD Chad Dawson easily!! Wow!!!

He fights at 1 weight and always controls every advantage possible, da refs is even afraid to warn him for foul play. He now wants to fight a 40 year old man dat has been retired for 3 years, dat sound like P4P#1 to you?

[Johnny Dough]

i have no problem with that. ward's work in the super six & last night warrants serious consideration.

from 2009-2012, ward fought and defeated top-tier fighters back to back.
no "stay busy" fights.... no "gimme" fights...

pac remained #1 even though his best was in 2008. ever since, his performances were lackluster and against "big" names instead of relevant threats. floyd fell off due to inactivity and choice of opponents. donaire had some great wins sprinkled with stay-busy fights against nobodies... sergio was in eurobum land fighting nobodies to keep busy... klit bros stomped out their division against nobodies (not their fault)...

if i judge p4p based on "what have you done for me lately?", then i would have ward on top... 2011 fighter of the year wasnt enough???? for me, it is.

but if we were to judge based on whole career and popularity, then we have floyd, pac, jmm, b-hop, etc. on top.

Allan Green, Pudwill, Bika