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Wladimir and Tysons bench press
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I highly doubt Wlad can bench 395, especially 275 20 times lol
I'd have to see it to believe it.
Wlad has the physique of a high rep style lifter, not power lifter. He looks like he can do a lot of pushups or reps 225 a lot. From looking at him, I would guess he can lift 275 6-10 times. I'd say he can get 325 3-6 times. But no way do I see him repping 395.
I'd really have to see it on video.
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Originally posted by New England View Postno way in hell these guys are benching that much unless it's a hobby in between fights (which it isn't / wasn't)
tyson lifted weights later in his career, but not in his prime.
that's enough weight to do horrible damage. there' no reason for it, considering that an injury could derail your million dollar paydays, or even your entire career.
i'd say no to the way. those numbers sound funky.
i seriously doubt they even bench, and if they do it's for high reps.
in his prime tyson held a very old school type training camp
sparring, work on the bags, running, shadowboxing, skipping rope, etc.
A friend of mine could bench 315 three or four times when he was only sixteen years-old. I saw a guy at work bench 405 on several occasions. He was a stocky 5'5" and probably didn't weigh more than 200 lbs. I watched (almost in disbelief) a guy blast out reps with 315 on the incline bench (significantly harder than flat bench) once. He was probably only about 5'8" and not much more than 200 lbs. These were all just regular guys (at least the first two; I didn't know the third), not pro athletes with nothing to do but train.
Like speed, punching power or intelligence, it's a gift to be that strong. Most lifters only get hurt when they're trying to lift much more than they're capable of. For some guys, "pushing the envelope" could mean astronomical numbers.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostI highly doubt Wlad can bench 395, especially 275 20 times lol
I'd have to see it to believe it.
Wlad has the physique of a high rep style lifter, not power lifter. He looks like he can do a lot of pushups or reps 225 a lot. From looking at him, I would guess he can lift 275 6-10 times. I'd say he can get 325 3-6 times. But no way do I see him repping 395.
I'd really have to see it on video.
Here's just one example, and not even the most impressive, which is scary:
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This is off the topic of tyson and vlad but george chavalo is supposed to bench and unbelievable amount for a senior citizen.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostAppearances can be deceiving. It's impossible to tell how strong some people are just by looking at them. A guy like Wlad obviously looks strong, but just how strong is another matter. And, speaking of videos, there are quite a few on Youtube of regular and professional guys benching 225 for dozens of reps.
Here's just one example, and not even the most impressive, which is scary:
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Granted, every now and then, you'll get some skinny guy who can lift 225 a few times. The guy in your video is a guy who I would've guessed would be able to do what he did in that video. To me, there was nothing surprising about that video.
But Wlad being the skinny/fit type of boxer, doesn't spell power lifter. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm just saying that I would have to see it to believe it.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostThe reason I say from looking at him is because I'm in the weight room 6 days a week for the last 12 years. I've become familiar with what certain builds are capable of lifting.
Granted, every now and then, you'll get some skinny guy who can lift 225 a few times. The guy in your video is a guy who I would've guessed would be able to do what he did in that video. To me, there was nothing surprising about that video.
But Wlad being the skinny/fit type of boxer, doesn't spell power lifter. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm just saying that I would have to see it to believe it.
I don't think it's so doubtful that a 6'6 1/2" tall, 245 lb. (cut) dedicated athlete like Wlad can bench 395 four times and 275 twenty times. He's a product of scientific training. According to one bench press chart I consulted, Wlad should be able to max out at about 454. I get what you're saying about Klitschko's build. But in today's day and age, the numbers attributed to him, while impressive, are not especially demanding of video proof.
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I'd be more interested in seeing holyfields numbers, considering he's a known weights guy who overpowered and outmuscled tyson in close.
Lennox was another strong dude I'd like to see his stats
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Bench press is one of the easiest things to gain IMO, I used to bench when I was younger, I started off at just 140lb max when I was 14, exactly 1 year later I was benching 240lbs at age 15, if I had stuck to it until I was 18 I could've easily gotten up to around 400, I didn't train seriously either I would bench really heavy weight a low reps every so often and my diet was shyt
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