Roach story about how he met Pacquiao fabricated?

[hectari]

I talked to someone on another boxing board who said he talked with Murad Muhammed about Pacquiao, that is Pac's old promoter.

He said that Roach made up a story like he saw Pacman as being a great when he held the mitts for him. He also said that Pac was brought to Bob Arum first and Arum refused to even take a look or a chance on a Racial slur for Asians, because they don't have a fanbase or bring any money in boxing.

The truth is Roach wasn't impressed, he held the mitts for Manny but after that told Manny you can train here and sent him to train with Lenny De Jesus the cutman/trainer, you might remember him as the cornerman of Josh Clottey.

Murad got Pac a last minute fight with Ledwaba on the De La Hoya fight in 2001, but the problem was De Jesus had to work the corner of a fighter overseas and couldn't corner Pacquiao so Roach took over, after Pac beat up Ledwaba that is the time Pac said Roach would be his trainer.

Roach also didn't have confidence in Pacman going into the Marco Antonio Barrera fight he tried to pull out and claimed it was because Murad was robbing Pacman, we all know that is BS has Roach ever showed concern for a fighters pay? no the man is just as greedy.

Roach only came back when he read or heard from a philippine source that one of his enemies Floyd Mayweather Sr. was being the first choice as a replacement trainer for Pacquiao. Roach didn't want Mayweather Sr. to train Manny so he went back with Manny.

I don't know how true any of this is, but there is a video of Ryan Songlia interviewing Lenny De Jesus admitting that he was the original guy who was supposed to train Pacman not Roach.

Fast forward to 6:05 of this video and Lenny De Jesus tells about how he was supposed to train Pac before Roach

[tredh]

Interesting!

[Mr. Philadel]

good thread ....the truth always find a way to come out

[hectari]

Interesting!

Yeah, and to find out that Lenny confirms what the guy had told me, it seems legit.

Roach made up the story to make it look like it was destined like some story book movie story.

Roach only trained Pacman cause Lenny had to go to Germany that day because a prior obligation.

Roach also wanted to jump ship when Pac was about to fight Barrera, I think pac was a 25-1 underdog? I remember seeing an interview with Steve Kim from Maxboxing where Roach said he was so confident that Pac would win he bet 100 bucks or something like that, I think that is BS.

Roach only came back cause Mayweather Sr. was being considered to train Pacman and Roach hates the Mayweather family he didn't want to let his enemy train Pacman.

I wish Pac would have just left Roach, Roach hasn't taught Pacman anything every trainer already said Pac was already a made champion when he came to roach.

[Evol]

i didnt know roach and mayweather sr go back that far??? i thought they only started disliking eachother after pac flatten's hatton and is becoming a threat to floyd.??

[Kagami Taiga]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

how funny would THAT have been??


instead of Freddie, it's Senior that's in PAC's corner while he rose to fame...and then the PAC-Floyd Jr thing would have a different angle...wonder if Sr would say anything

[paulf]

Has DeJesus ever revealed why he was removed as Pacquiao's second? I know a lot of people were asking, but he was keeping quiet about it at the time everyone was asking (2009).

Also, to the OP; Roach and Floyd Sr have disliked each other for years. They fought on the same cards as pros, and Roach was a sparring partner for either Floyd or Roger, can't remember which.

[oc9979]

I was doing some research and the only fights that weekend in Germany recorded by BoxRec were

http://boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2001&mm=06&dd=22

[tredh]

Yeah, and to find out that Lenny confirms what the guy had told me, it seems legit.

Roach made up the story to make it look like it was destined like some story book movie story.

Roach only trained Pacman cause Lenny had to go to Germany that day because a prior obligation.

Roach also wanted to jump ship when Pac was about to fight Barrera, I think pac was a 25-1 underdog? I remember seeing an interview with Steve Kim from Maxboxing where Roach said he was so confident that Pac would win he bet 100 bucks or something like that, I think that is BS.

Roach only came back cause Mayweather Sr. was being considered to train Pacman and Roach hates the Mayweather family he didn't want to let his enemy train Pacman.

I wish Pac would have just left Roach, Roach hasn't taught Pacman anything every trainer already said Pac was already a made champion when he came to roach.

The story makes you think cause people are opportunists. Que sera sera!!!