True or False Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Andre Ward are the world's 2 best fighters?

[Boxingwizard]

False, some people are seriously overrating Ward. Ward didn't even want to fight his buddy Andre Dirrell. He's never fought a really solid boxer, he beat a lot of tough guy's who have flaws in their boxing ability. He's impressive, but to say that Ward is the next Maywather is stretching it.

I don't even think he beats Dawson.

[Light_Speed]

You guys make this more complicated than it is. I'm referring to general boxing ability. To me, Floyd and Andre are the most complete fighters in the game. Offense, defense, ring intelligence, etc. They display all of these attributes very well.

Being more complete than someone doesn't necessarily make you a better fighter. I agree that they are currently the two best fighters P4P based on ability alone but not because they're more complete than the rest, they're just better fighters.

[danceswithfire]

Wow, this is the same guy who arguably lost to a 38 year old blown up light weight who Floyd shut out two years prior, he looked terrible against a horribly shot Shane Mosley and he wasn't exactly dazzling against Bradley. I don't see how anybody can still put Manny @ # 1. Honestly that's laughable.

laughable is you comparing pac vs marquez fights to floyd vs jmm fight....floyd was huge compared to jmm and was literally a ww vs lw fight..

but if you wanna know something , out of 5 common opponets between pac and floyd , pac did better 4 times

[Johnwoo8686]

Ward is one of the best but I wouldn't call him the best, not even number 2. Let's see how he performs against Dawson. To me, Ward looks very beatable. I think an intelligent pressure fighter could cause a lot of problems for Ward. I would place Pac and Sergio above Ward to be honest. However he is certainly one of the top five if not top ten best fighters in the world.

[Boxingwizard]

Ward is one of the best but I wouldn't call him the best, not even number 2. Let's see how he performs against Dawson. To me, Ward looks very beatable. I think an intelligent pressure fighter could cause a lot of problems for Ward. I would place Pac and Sergio above Ward to be honest. However he is certainly one of the top five if not top ten best fighters in the world.

Yup and boxing fans think he's comparable to a prime Mayweather, a prime Jones Jr, or even a prime Hopkins. He's clearly not on that level, not from what I've seen.

Make no mistake about it Ward is a really solid boxer, if he beats Dawson, I would compare him to Hopkins and Mayweather. We'll see how he handles Dawson first.

[joesaiditstrue]

my top 2 p4p, i voted true of course

[joesaiditstrue]

I would say yea if mainly based on doing a number of things wells, some other guys like Wlad for example have perfect styles that while less rounded are just as (if not more) difficult to overcome and they probably deserve mention.

I don't think you can go wrong with Floyd and Ward though.

it's just one person's opinion (or at the time of this posting, 29 people's opinion)

if you disagree that's fine, i don't see why people have to get sand in their ****ing vaginas over this ****

[joesaiditstrue]

laughable is you comparing pac vs marquez fights to floyd vs jmm fight....floyd was huge compared to jmm and was literally a ww vs lw fight..

but if you wanna know something , out of 5 common opponets between pac and floyd , pac did better 4 times

yeah and out of 5 common opponents

hatton, mosley, cotto, marquez, de la hoya

floyd fought all 5 without draining them below their natural weight limit
floyd fought 3 of them first

when did "how" you beat an opponent make a damn bit of a difference in this sport when comparing fighters, you can't make that statement and ignore styles. unless you're an idiot, of course

[$tate of Mind]

I think Saturday's performance by Ward against Dawson further proved my point.