Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Marquez?????

[Johnwoo8686]

pac
floyd
bhop
marquez

This is exactly my list. Pac has won titles in the most weight classes, has the most lineal titles and is the youngest guy on that list!
Pac is number one, Floyd is number two, Bhop at three, and Marquez at four.

[Johnwoo8686]

What do you have against Floyd mayweather ?

This guy acts like Mayweather killed his father lol. His obsession with Floyd is mind boggling.

[Ray Corso]

I can't take away much from any of them because they do have alot of knowledge between them. All of them have good experience especially Pacman & Hopkins, I'd say Marquez & Floyd have the most skills but Manny comes to fight and he "makes" the fight too!

Manny
Floyd
Marquez
Bernard
...............in todays boxing groupings all high level boxers but I put Manny ahead of them because of his style, he's a crowd pleasure and comes to force the issue. Marquez is on this list because he boxes Manny straight up and deserves alot of credit for his will to win against him. I personally think Manny won all of their fights but losses don't mean much to me when the competition is even and on a high level. Ray

[IronDanHamza]

Ok here is what I'm trying to say. Nowadays from casuals, new fans, and even ESPN and other pseudo-credible boxing sources BHop gets all this love and is referred to as a legend. But a little over ten years ago all the promoters hated him (I'm sure most of them still do), ESPN hated him, etc... But his middleweight run was voted something like 4th greatest achievement in boxing history in 2000 by Ring.

My personal feeling is he got more plaudits and whatnot for his success during his normal career, whereas he has become this almost revered figure nowadays, but none of his decades accomplishments get mentioned all we hear about is oldest champion (which isn't that great of an accomplishment IMO).

I think people forgot how hated BHop was before Floyd replaced him as official outspoken African American boxer.

Yeah, I agree.

Hopkins has a lot more love now than he once had.

[DeadLikeMe]

Yeah, I agree.

Hopkins has a lot more love now than he once had.

It was a bit of an overstatement by me to say he has slid down the list (but realistically Pacquiao and Mayweather have surpassed him in that time). But really, he hasn't done anything of significance to move him around on an ATG list in the past decade IMO. His popularity and fame have gone up in the time, but his status as an ATG has remained pretty stagnant. It is just interesting to me how things have worked out regarding BHop.

[Frank Ducketts]

Floyds will to win is second to none. Nobody takes that into consideration because most of the greats lost close, classic fights. Yes, there is honor and respect in losing, but what about a man who has never lost. Good day, bad day, Floyd came prepared to win every fight which is why he's tops on this list of 4. And Floyds never been put down by a punch.

That accounts for something, and has to be taken into consideration.

[RubenSonny]

[QUOTE=MANIAC310;12428807]Morales is greater than Mayweather. Morales best win is greater than Mayweathers best win and Morales was in greater fights./QUOTE]

By your ******ed ass logic Billy Backus is greater than all of them, he's also greater than Julio Cesar Chavez right?

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=RubenSonny;12430063]

Morales is greater than Mayweather. Morales best win is greater than Mayweathers best win and Morales was in greater fights./QUOTE]

By your ******ed ass logic Billy Backus is greater than all of them, he's also greater than Julio Cesar Chavez right?

Ruben Carter - Greatest of all time.

[Johnwoo8686]

[QUOTE=RubenSonny;12430063]

Morales is greater than Mayweather. Morales best win is greater than Mayweathers best win and Morales was in greater fights./QUOTE]

By your ******ed ass logic Billy Backus is greater than all of them, he's also greater than Julio Cesar Chavez right?

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;12430066]

Ruben Carter - Greatest of all time.

LOL you guys just owned that clown

[RubenSonny]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;12430066]

Ruben Carter - Greatest of all time.

Strongly disagree, I'd go with Tiger Jones, Leonard Morrow, Fireman Jim Flynn and Soldier Bartfield all over Carter, c'mon be serious now!