Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Marquez?????

[LeG00N]

What you stated was not my logic. I just find it utterly ridiculous how you "can't support a racist" or whatever you said, yet support a cheater and could have literally ruined another fighter's life.

But he isn't racist, so its irrelevant

cheaters are worse than racist if ur a boxing fan. that hoes without saying. every boxer is entitled to their beliefs and their world view. but not every boxer cheats and none are entitled to cheat. the fact that u seem to think racism is somehow worse for a boxer than cheating is very puzzling.

I would take this post more seriously if you weren't notorious for excusing the racism of your favorite fighters..

[IronDanHamza]

No i thought the thread starter gave those 4 names as he thinks the quartet are the candidate for being the best of this era. If that is the case, i dont think Floyd quite is in the top 4, he is borderline.
I thought MOrales and JC deserved a mention above Floyd, and thats why i made no mention of FLoyd even if the thread starter did.

No, if you could read he just asks what order you rank them.

You being the idiot you are, of course missed it.

[V.WEBB]

But he isn't racist, so its irrelevant

On ignore you go.

[Kagami Taiga]

But he isn't racist, so its irrelevant



I would take this post more seriously if you weren't notorious for excusing the racism of your favorite fighters..

ha. now find a post where I excused it. go. don't lie on me to run away from the truth.

[V.WEBB]

ha. now find a post where I excused it. go. don't lie on me to run away from the truth.

I just put the dude on ignore.

[LeG00N]

On ignore you go.

....I won't miss conversing with you....and your Racist = Cheaters logic

ha. now find a post where I excused it. go. don't lie on me to run away from the truth.

Weren't you avoiding my posts? Its best if you continue. I don't want to get ****** in to the same debates we've had a thousand times.

[DeadLikeMe]

Didn't he say "He's slid down on most people ATG lists since 2003" meaning he was higher on most peoples lists but now he's lower?

Deadlikeme needs to confirm

Ok here is what I'm trying to say. Nowadays from casuals, new fans, and even ESPN and other pseudo-credible boxing sources BHop gets all this love and is referred to as a legend. But a little over ten years ago all the promoters hated him (I'm sure most of them still do), ESPN hated him, etc... But his middleweight run was voted something like 4th greatest achievement in boxing history in 2000 by Ring.

My personal feeling is he got more plaudits and whatnot for his success during his normal career, whereas he has become this almost revered figure nowadays, but none of his decades accomplishments get mentioned all we hear about is oldest champion (which isn't that great of an accomplishment IMO).

I think people forgot how hated BHop was before Floyd replaced him as official outspoken African American boxer.

[4Corners]

Morales is greater than Mayweather. Morales best win is greater than Mayweathers best win and Morales was in greater fights.

A real lst would look like this

Pacquiao
Morales
Mayweather
Marquez

In terms of skills

Mayweather
Marquez
Morales
Pacquiao

In terms of heart

Marquez
Pacquiao/Morales
Mayweather

In terms of fame

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Morales
Marquez

Interms of defense

Mayweather
Marquez(young/prime)
Morales
Pacquiao

Interms of offense

Pacquiao
Morales
Marquez
Mayweather

Interms of Combination punching

Marquez
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.
.
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Morales is not greater than Floyd......just no.

[MRBOOMER]

No i thought the thread starter gave those 4 names as he thinks the quartet are the candidate for being the best of this era. If that is the case, i dont think Floyd quite is in the top 4, he is borderline.
I thought MOrales and JC deserved a mention above Floyd, and thats why i made no mention of FLoyd even if the thread starter did.

What do you have against Floyd mayweather ?

[hectari]

Hopkins gets top spot because of the title defenses at 160
Pacquiao more titles and more fights
Mayweather very inactive at 147
Marquez is good but he isn't on the level of Marco Antonio Barrera or Erik Morales, his only career defining fights are his loss to Floyd Mayweather and him crying robbery three times against Pacquiao.