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  • SnoopySmurf
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    L. Lewis is a tactical fighter. He will not try to over reach and get caught against punchers. He knows his limits and will keep his weak chin far away and protected from punchers. He's smart.

    He is not purposely a boring fighter. If you recall, any fighter who tags him good, Lennox is sure to return the favor as he did with Michael Grant and Klitchko. If Tua had landed a solid punch and Lennox survived, he would retaliate for sure. But Tua never really landed a good punch and thus, Lennox was content to jab all night. Tua, never succumbed to his jabs and thus, Lennox would not dare go for the kill.

    If Lennox knows the other fighter clearly has no advantage at any time in the fight, like a Lion, he will pounce on him as he did with Botha.

    As much as possible, Lennox will not allow a skilled fighter to have an advantage (Holyfield had to reach out for the taller man and got caught with counters). Botha had almost none and Lennox went for it. Holyfield was a veteran and Lennox used patience and his physical attributes to beat him impressively.

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    • sugarray
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      Zviad, take it easy mate. I was just saying that Jones has been woefully gunshy in his last two fights, after getting KO'd by Tarver. I don't think anyone can dispute that.

      Whoever said Lewis fought scared against Mavrovic obviously hasn't seen the fight. He was somewhat cautious in the first couple of rounds, but after that put some serious hurt on the big Croat. It was pretty much a one sided pounding, with Lewis landing every shot in the book - including some really hard body shots.

      I don't agree that Lewis was scared in the McCall rematch. Just because he didn't charge into him, that doesn't mean he was scared. Yes, he was being careful, but that is understandable given the outcome of their first fight. He thoroughly frustrated McCall with his jab and was throwing right hands and uppercuts with real conviction. Lewis fought a great fight that night, its a shame that McCall's meltdown tarnished was was one of his best performances.

      Also, Lewis did stand up to Tua in the first round of their fight, hitting him with some really heavy overhand rights in the first couple of minutes that made TUA reluctant to let his hands go for the rest of the fight. After that he hardly attacked, which allowed Lewis to jab his head off.

      Against Tyson he did a similar thing, only he used hard right uppercuts to make Mike think twice about charging in. Watch the opening couple of rounds again, Tyson was sickened by some of the shots he took and, afterwards, even admitted that he was hurt early.
      Last edited by sugarray; 12-15-2005, 11:18 AM.

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      • Stone Cold
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        #13
        Originally posted by MickyHatton
        He still doesn't get credit especially on here.

        Your right though, Lewis never ducked anyone and always avenged his defeats, the problem with Lewis was that he didn't take some fighters seriously enough and on those occasions he got caught, when he 'knew' a fighter was dangerous (Ruddock, Golota, Tyson, Holyfield) he then up'd his game and beat the best around the division at that time!
        you say Leiws never ducked anyone but do the names Chris Byrd and John Ruiz ring a bell?

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        • MickyHatton
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          Originally posted by sugarray
          Zviad, take it easy mate. I was just saying that Jones has been woefully gunshy in his last two fights, after getting KO'd by Tarver. I don't think anyone can dispute that.

          Whoever said Lewis fought scared against Mavrovic obviously hasn't seen the fight. He was somewhat cautious in the first couple of rounds, but after that put some serious hurt on the big Croat. It was pretty much a one sided pounding, with Lewis landing every shot in the book - including some really hard body shots.

          I don't agree that Lewis was scared in the McCall rematch. Just because he didn't charge into him, that doesn't mean he was scared. Yes, he was being careful, but that is understandable given the outcome of their first fight. He thoroughly frustrated McCall with his jab and was throwing right hands and uppercuts with real conviction. Lewis fought a great fight that night, its a shame that McCall's meltdown tarnished was was one of his best performances.

          Also, Lewis did stand up to Tua in the first round of their fight, hitting him with some really heavy overhand rights in the first couple of minutes that made TUA reluctant to let his hands go for the rest of the fight. After that he hardly attacked, which allowed Lewis to jab his head off.

          Against Tyson he did a similar thing, only he used hard right uppercuts to make Mike think twice about charging in. Watch the opening couple of rounds again, Tyson was sickened by some of the shots he took and, afterwards, even admitted that he was hurt early.

          Yeah, I've got to agree with everything sugarray said here, Lewis was an intelligent fighter who patiently waited for the right time to exploit his opponents weaknesses, he was not gunshy or fearful just clever, he didn't need to brawl with Tyson in round 1 becuase he new Tyson would run out of steam especially as he was being jabbed all over the ring.

          Lewis was a great champion, look for quotes from former greats like Holmes and Foreman and they say the same thing!

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          • MickyHatton
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            #15
            Originally posted by Stone Cold
            you say Leiws never ducked anyone but do the names Chris Byrd and John Ruiz ring a bell?

            Jesus, get a grip Stone Cold,

            Byrd is now, not then, he wasn't even in the equation back then and Ruiz again was not the biggest name around that time.

            The reason they are now tells you what a poor division it is these days!

            Its like saying Ali ducked Tyson!!!!

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            • scap
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              #16
              Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
              L. Lewis is a tactical fighter. He will not try to over reach and get caught against punchers. He knows his limits and will keep his weak chin far away and protected from punchers. He's smart.

              He is not purposely a boring fighter. If you recall, any fighter who tags him good, Lennox is sure to return the favor as he did with Michael Grant and Klitchko. If Tua had landed a solid punch and Lennox survived, he would retaliate for sure. But Tua never really landed a good punch and thus, Lennox was content to jab all night. Tua, never succumbed to his jabs and thus, Lennox would not dare go for the kill.

              If Lennox knows the other fighter clearly has no advantage at any time in the fight, like a Lion, he will pounce on him as he did with Botha.

              As much as possible, Lennox will not allow a skilled fighter to have an advantage (Holyfield had to reach out for the taller man and got caught with counters). Botha had almost none and Lennox went for it. Holyfield was a veteran and Lennox used patience and his physical attributes to beat him impressively.

              This is a very very good post!

              This speaks to Lennox's greatest strength...which is his brain.

              Your point about Lennox fighting back when he gets tagged is is very well taken as well!

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                #17
                Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                L. Lewis is a tactical fighter. He will not try to over reach and get caught against punchers. He knows his limits and will keep his weak chin far away and protected from punchers. He's smart.

                He is not purposely a boring fighter. If you recall, any fighter who tags him good, Lennox is sure to return the favor as he did with Michael Grant and Klitchko. If Tua had landed a solid punch and Lennox survived, he would retaliate for sure. But Tua never really landed a good punch and thus, Lennox was content to jab all night. Tua, never succumbed to his jabs and thus, Lennox would not dare go for the kill.

                If Lennox knows the other fighter clearly has no advantage at any time in the fight, like a Lion, he will pounce on him as he did with Botha.

                As much as possible, Lennox will not allow a skilled fighter to have an advantage (Holyfield had to reach out for the taller man and got caught with counters). Botha had almost none and Lennox went for it. Holyfield was a veteran and Lennox used patience and his physical attributes to beat him impressively.
                I can only agree

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                • Stone Cold
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MickyHatton
                  Jesus, get a grip Stone Cold,

                  Byrd is now, not then, he wasn't even in the equation back then and Ruiz again was not the biggest name around that time.

                  The reason they are now tells you what a poor division it is these days!

                  Its like saying Ali ducked Tyson!!!!
                  they were the #1 contenders for te wba and ibf belts and Lewis didn't want to fight them. so he ducked them and gave up the belts.

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                  • MickyHatton
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Stone Cold
                    they were the #1 contenders for te wba and ibf belts and Lewis didn't want to fight them. so he ducked them and gave up the belts.
                    So what your saying is then a fighter cannot retire if there are fighters rated as number 1 contender???

                    In other words never retire or not until they are beaten?

                    Anyway you seriously cannot believe that Lewis would duck Byrd and Ruiz, could you???, he just couldn't be bothered as they are poor heavyweights, he beat the best around and regained the UNDISPUTED titles.

                    He was near 40 and it was time for him to retire!

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                    • TOPitBull
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                      #20
                      I am not sure if Lennox is British, Canadian, or Jamaican.

                      Can someone settle this for me?

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