Do you hate catchweights...?

[JDezi4]

Considering how all the supers and juniors have been added to weight classes, I can't see a reason for it...

I don't mind when we're talkin about a guy jumping up 2 weight classes or something like that, but there should never be a catch weight when fighting for a world title

[~AK49~]

Who cares? If the fighter signs the contract, that is all that matters. It is the responsibility of a fighter to have the right people around him making the decisions that are correct for the fighter's health and financial gain.

As it were with Manny/Cotto...Team Pac proposed for Cotto come down to 145 for COTTO's title, and Cotto agreed to it. if Cotto didn't want to fight at the weight; if he felt it was too much to cut, then he shouldn't have taken the fight, simple as that.

I just wanna see top fighters making exciting fights. I don't care about weights, titles, purses, none of it.

Actually, team pac proposed something like 143, they negotiated to 145, with no belt on the line. On surface, all seems well with that. Miguel was forced to put up his belt after the fact. Ultimately that doesnt matter, as miguel lost anyways, but the catchweight was proposed/used solely for the purpose of taking something out of miguel. Manny had fought previously, and since, at the divisional limit. But whatever.

What i scratch my head over now, is considering how handily manny beat miguel, why is he asking for a catchweight again. Just seems hes scared to fight miguel when cotto is comfortable/full strength.

[The Big Dunn]

catchweights are not good. theres a million weight classes as it is.

good point shade. when there were only 8 weight classes, catchweight made sense. Now that there are classes in between it doesn't in many cases.

[Mike D]

Who cares? If the fighter signs the contract, that is all that matters. It is the responsibility of a fighter to have the right people around him making the decisions that are correct for the fighter's health and financial gain.

As it were with Manny/Cotto...Team Pac proposed for Cotto come down to 145 for COTTO's title, and Cotto agreed to it. if Cotto didn't want to fight at the weight; if he felt it was too much to cut, then he shouldn't have taken the fight, simple as that.

I just wanna see top fighters making exciting fights. I don't care about weights, titles, purses, none of it.

This. This multiplied by fifty. If a challenger doesn't want a CW, then walk. And before someone brings up money as a reason as to why the dude HAD TO take a CW, then said dude deserved to lose. If money is your sole reason to take a CW fight -- and then you cry foul after the fact -- your ass deserved to get beat down.

Fans cry over catch weights more than the boxers themselves. **** is hilarious.

[Bermuda]

Who cares? If the fighter signs the contract, that is all that matters. It is the responsibility of a fighter to have the right people around him making the decisions that are correct for the fighter's health and financial gain.

As it were with Manny/Cotto...Team Pac proposed for Cotto come down to 145 for COTTO's title, and Cotto agreed to it. if Cotto didn't want to fight at the weight; if he felt it was too much to cut, then he shouldn't have taken the fight, simple as that.

I just wanna see top fighters making exciting fights. I don't care about weights, titles, purses, none of it.

agreed.............if both fighters sign a fight knowing full well that their is a catchweight involved then there is no problem in my eyes because to me they both agree and have little to no problem with it. it's only fans that make a big deal out of it to discredit another fighter's win. no one is putting a gun to another fighter's head to sign a catchweight fight...if he signs it then he signs it on his own will.

[~AK49~]

This. This multiplied by fifty. If a challenger doesn't want a CW, then walk. And before someone brings up money as a reason as to why the dude HAD TO take a CW, then said dude deserved to lose. If money is your sole reason to take a CW fight -- and then you cry foul after the fact -- your ass deserved to get beat down.

Fans cry over catch weights more than the boxers themselves. **** is hilarious.

If a fighter demands a catchweight for the sole purpose of taking something out of the other guy, especially when he has fought at the divisional limit previously, there is an element of fraud there imo. While its true that the guy has no one to blame but himself, he just wanted to make the fight happen for whatever reason. Its b.s. when a fighter demands a catchweight solely for the purpose of not wanting to fight the other guy at his full strength. Thats fraudn.

[Mike D]

If a fighter demands a catchweight for the sole purpose of taking something out of the other guy, especially when he has fought at the divisional limit previously, there is an element of fraud there imo. While its true that the guy has no one to blame but himself, he just wanted to make the fight happen for whatever reason. Its b.s. when a fighter demands a catchweight solely for the purpose of not wanting to fight the other guy at his full strength. Thats fraudn.

Simple solution for said fighter who is getting frauded to come down to a disadvantage.

WALK.

Call the b1tch out for it and walk. Fight somebody else.

[DeadLikeMe]

It depends on the circumstances, but I personally feel that Roach uses them directly to his advantage. He is constantly talking about "drain him down a few pounds" and whatnot. Pretty much admitting he likes his fighters to face competition that isn't at 100%. Aside from the obvious malicious ways they can be used I really don't have much of a problem if the fighters don't.

[Ray*]

I think catchweight arent a bad idea in general, But the abuse of it is what makes me dislike it currently, For example i don't have a problem with Chad Dawson/Andre ward fighting at 168, Because it was never the intention of Ward (The bigger name) to fight Dawson at that weight, But when a fighter is doing it deliberately to "weaken" his less famous opponent so he can have an advantage before he steps in the ring with him then i DO have a problem with that sort of CW, Especially when you also add a title belt unto the fight.

[~AK49~]

Simple solution for said fighter who is getting frauded to come down to a disadvantage.

WALK.

Call the b1tch out for it and walk. Fight somebody else.

True. Props to him tho for taking on the disadvantage and giving a great fight too. Still doesnt negate the b.s. from get go.