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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by shade darkar
    im not saying floyd should go up and fight sergio. im saying he is better suited to do that compared to pacquiao who is really a junior welterweight fighting at welterweight as it is.
    Shade, thats just more BS to me, respectfully. Manny is a ww, floyd is a ww. Same weight class, same expectations.

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    • shade darkar
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      #42
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Shade, thats just more BS to me, respectfully. Manny is a ww, floyd is a ww. Same weight class, same expectations.
      not in my opinion. pac is a junior welter fighting at welter. he could easily fight at 140. you couldnt see mayweather fight at 140 these days would you considering he couldnt make 144 for marquez.

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      • spoonwars
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        #43
        Originally posted by 4Corners
        If I were Manny, I'd say Mayweather and no one else. Of course, we don't even know what Floyd's up to.
        What do you mean you don't know what Floyd is up to? He came out of jail bulked up somehow from his claim of malnutrition and dehydration. It's obvious he's cooking up his next duck recipe for Manny to fight him at 154 instead of 147. After Manny agrees Floyd will just search his cookbook for one of his staple chicken recipes and start cooking again to back out. If all else fails, just dodge and say "take the test." You know the drill.
        Last edited by spoonwars; 08-06-2012, 11:22 AM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by spoonwars
          What do you mean you don't know what Floyd is up to? He came out of jail bulked up somehow from his claim of malnutrition and dehydration. It's obvious he's cooking up his next duck recipe for Manny to fight him at 154 instead of 147. After Manny agrees Floyd will just search his cookbook for one of his staple chicken recipes and start cooking again to back out. If all else fails, just dodge and say "take the test." You know the drill.
          It's also interesting that the last two times Arum has talked with Manny about choosing his next opponent, Floyd hasn't been on the list. Just saying....

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            #45
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            your comparison makes no sense. If they 5'8 guy is celestin caballero well he isn't best suited for 154 is he? its not about theory, its about the 2 fighters and who they should face if they don't face each other.

            If you say well floyd should go up and face sergio then the same should apply to manny.
            Nuff said right here.... Case Closed

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              #46
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              Look, if you want a title at any weight, let the champion fight at the max weight. If you have to bring the champ down, you don't belong at the weight. Period!

              That goes for manny, floyd and any fighter. It has nothing to do with BHop and LHW.
              Heed your words, bro. It's also called limit, not mandatory or fixed. The guy with the better overall leverage is the champ of the boxing business between the two fighters. If it's not a business they should go fight for free in a basement for fun. I don't like it either, but it's just how it is.

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                #47
                Originally posted by spoonwars
                Heed your words, bro. It's also called limit, not mandatory or fixed. The guy with the better overall leverage is the champ of the boxing business between the two fighters. If it's not a business they should go fight for free in a basement for fun. I don't like it either, but it's just how it is.
                and if the guy with te leverage uses it like that, then that fighter is loses credibility from me. Be a man, beat the champ at the max weight of the division. Period.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by spoonwars
                  What do you mean you don't know what Floyd is up to? He came out of jail bulked up somehow from his claim of malnutrition and dehydration. It's obvious he's cooking up his next duck recipe for Manny to fight him at 154 instead of 147. After Manny agrees Floyd will just search his cookbook for one of his staple chicken recipes and start cooking again to back out. If all else fails, just dodge and say "take the test." You know the drill.
                  Funny how Manny can turn down a 50/50 split to fight Clottey for 7 mil and you say Floyds scared. Do you see anybody else offering Manny 40 mil for a fight? Cuz I dont.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shade darkar
                    not in my opinion. pac is a junior welter fighting at welter. he could easily fight at 140. you couldnt see mayweather fight at 140 these days would you considering he couldnt make 144 for marquez.
                    Shade your line of reasoning wreaks of bias and fandom. Manny is a ww. WHen it was JMM and Bradley, well he is a ww. WHen its sergio, hes a JWW fighting at ww.

                    STop with the excuses and lowering the bar for only one guy.

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                    • shade darkar
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Shade your line of reasoning wreaks of bias and fandom. Manny is a ww. WHen it was JMM and Bradley, well he is a ww. WHen its sergio, hes a JWW fighting at ww.

                      STop with the excuses and lowering the bar for only one guy.
                      bias about what?!!!!!! im of the opinion that they are both ****s.

                      iv always been of the opinion that he is a junior welterweight fighting at welterweight since he beat hatton.

                      its fairly basic, look at their weights. look at the size difference. im not interested in sticking up for 1 guy over another.

                      whe it was marquez he was a junior welterweight fighting at welter, same with bradley, same with whatever fighter you name.

                      the same way chavez vs martinez, they are both fighting at middleweight, yet martinez isnt a middleweight, he will be a junior middleweight fighting at middleweight.

                      i dont see how thats so hard for you to understand.

                      also, i have not said 1 excuse so i dont know where you are getting that from.

                      is it not true that pac could easily make 140?
                      is it not true that mayweather couldnt make 144?

                      those are not excuses.
                      Last edited by shade darkar; 08-06-2012, 12:11 PM.

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