Comments Thread For: Canelo: I Want Mayweather or Cotto Now, I'm Ready!

[Mr. Fantastic]

He'll be taken seriously by the boxing public, fanboys are a minority of the boxing public.

Boxing is made of fanboys. From a specific fighter to a flag, color, etc.

[The Big Dunn]

Every single comparo you bring up is ******. hugh grant hates Floyd a great fighter who's accomplished great things. ginger has done nothing in boxing to deserve a fight with Floyd.

Golden boy got the Ghost the fight yes, but it was against a real fighter 2 divisions bigger than he'd last fought at.

But ginger may fight either Cotto or Floyd by beating a 140lber after winning & defending his title against no one in hi9s weight class.

How do you compare ginger being spoonfed fighters from division below him, to the Ghost fighting a fighter 2 divisions bigger is ****ing ******ed, period.

You and jfd26 are both know I compare Ghost getting an opportunity he didn't deserve with Canelo getting an opportunity he doesn't deserve. You guys look past the starting point.

SHould Guerrero get to fight floyd, it will be becuase he won a fight he shouldn't have been in. If Canelo gets floyd, it will be based of winning vs Lopez, a fight he shouldn't be in.

If you are upset that Canelo is getting the baby treatment by GBP thats fine. You know I think at his age its not that big a deal. But i understand and respect the argument.

But we are discussing "worthiness" as an opponent to floyd in his next fight. In both fighters case the "worthiness" has been manufactured to a degeree by GBP, their promoter!

Yea, he either doesn't get it or is simply trying to avoid it. Guerrero sacrificed himself to try and get a fight vs Floyd while Canelo is the one sacrificing his opponents by blowing them up.

Ghost didn't sacrifice himself. He got a great payday and a chance to be the #1 ww contender for floyd's belt. Is that fair after being off over a year and having spent the whole carrer at 135 and below?

Do you think Ghost at 1-0 is more deserving of a floyd fight than say Josesito Lopez or ALexander, not to mention a Jan Zaveck?

[Bushbaby]

You and jfd26 are both know I compare Ghost getting an opportunity he didn't deserve with Canelo getting an opportunity he doesn't deserve. You guys look past the starting point.

SHould Guerrero get to fight floyd, it will be becuase he won a fight he shouldn't have been in. If Canelo gets floyd, it will be based of winning vs Lopez, a fight he shouldn't be in.

If you are upset that Canelo is getting the baby treatment by GBP thats fine. You know I think at his age its not that big a deal. But i understand and respect the argument.

But we are discussing "worthiness" as an opponent to floyd in his next fight. In both fighters case the "worthiness" has been manufactured to a degeree by GBP, their promoter!



Ghost didn't sacrifice himself. He got a great payday and a chance to be the #1 ww contender for floyd's belt. Is that fair after being off over a year and having spent the whole carrer at 135 and below?

Do you think Ghost at 1-0 is more deserving of a floyd fight than say Josesito Lopez or ALexander, not to mention a Jan Zaveck?

Me personally don't think either deserves it. What I dad say was that between the 2, the Ghost deserves it more. Now yes golden boy got them both their fights. But ginger's is blatantly & obviously without a doubt getting bonified cherrypicks. The Ghost wasn't protected in that fight. They didn't pamper him. They gave him an opportunity against a big, dangerous fighter & he won.

It's 1 thing doing right by your fighter, (golden boy/The Ghost). And another thing to get them a fight with Floyd or Cotto haven't beating a notable fighter from your own weight class in 5 title fights.

[AP♠]

The minority of Canelo fan boys are just trying way too hard.Chavez Jr was right abt canelo caring more abt being popularity then legacy in the ring.I give Chavez the upper hand in fighting the better competition.

[The Big Dunn]

I can see where he's coming from with that but Ill get to it below.

I don't think I mentioned anything about 154 did I?

I think the one skipping the problem here is you. You're saying Guerrero didn't deserve a shot at the #1 contender (Aydin) cause he hasn't done junk at 147 correct? Well, you're right but if nobody wanted to fight the guy or GBP paid whoever to move out the way so Guerrero can fight him and take the risk, what's wrong with that? Again, that's what promoters do. Also, you can't compare a shot at Aydin to a shot at Floyd. It's not the same magnitude or as rewarding. What has Canelo done at 154? Better yet, name me one top 10 guy at 154 Canelo has faced. GBP is avoiding Canelo facing ANY of the top 10 in his division cause they don't wanna risk him losing and losing that shot at Floyd/Cotto. Now if you ask me, that's pretty sad that they dont have confidence in his own guy.

Well, you're right but if nobody wanted to fight the guy or GBP paid whoever to move out the way so Guerrero can fight him and take the risk, what's wrong with that?

Hold that thought and I'll tell you whats wrong with it.

Again, that's what promoters do. Also, you can't compare a shot at Aydin to a shot at Floyd. It's not the same magnitude or as rewarding.

1. Of course it's a different magnitude-Canelo is a top star in the sport and Guerrero is a 2nd tier star.

2. Here's whats wrong. WHen GBP does "what promoters do" for Guerrero, well its no big deal because its only AYdin according to you. But when they do "what promoters do" at the next level with Canelo, then there is something wrong. That is a double standard.

If you feel promoter manipulation, no matter what form it takes,is wrong, then its wrong at EVERY level, top level, the 2nd tier, champions and contenders.

[spoonwars]

Am I the only one who thinks Canelo is boring and overhyped? I think he's a decent young fighter...but imo, by no means is he a must see fighter.

He's like De La Hoya in a way, but worse. Only a matter of time before it shows.

The more he talks, the more it comes out of his ass. Look how hypocritical he is in this article.

[The Big Dunn]

Me personally don't think either deserves it. What I dad say was that between the 2, the Ghost deserves it more. Now yes golden boy got them both their fights. But ginger's is blatantly & obviously without a doubt getting bonified cherrypicks. The Ghost wasn't protected in that fight. They didn't pamper him. They gave him an opportunity against a big, dangerous fighter & he won.

It's 1 thing doing right by your fighter, (golden boy/The Ghost). And another thing to get them a fight with Floyd or Cotto haven't beating a notable fighter from your own weight class in 5 title fights.

If they get Canelo the most lucrative fight available its the same thing they did for Guerrero. Come on Bush!!

Ultimately your point is Canelo is getting BS preferential star treatment from HBO through GBP. Yes he is. But Guerrero, for the level of star he is, his Aydin fight on HBO, given the circumstnces is huge.

[Bushbaby]

If they get Canelo the most lucrative fight available its the same thing they did for Guerrero. Come on Bush!!

Ultimately your point is Canelo is getting BS preferential star treatment from HBO through GBP. Yes he is. But Guerrero, for the level of star he is, his Aydin fight on HBO, given the circumstnces is huge.

Yeah Golden boy got the Ghost the fight, against a big dangerous guy. He had to sink or swim.

But with ginger, they go south to find someone, anyone for him to beat. They make sure he isn't supposed to lose. They practically guarantee it.

There is a big difference in how they promote them. They protect ginger, they gave the Ghost a dangerous fight after a long layoff in a new weight class.

[letsgobrady]

No, my argument is that golden boy protects ginger. They didn't protect the Ghost in his move up. For the record neither deserve a fight with Floyd. But between the 2 the Ghost deserves it more. If they were to get a shot.

yea i agree

[kiaba360]

Canelo is a young almost-prime fighter that wants to make his name by fighting guys who've campaigned at lower weight divisions. Floyd and Cotto fit that profile. He also wants the $$$. Floyd and Cotto bring that too. Floyd/Cotto have the experience and skill edge, but Canelo has the size and youth. 55-45 fight with Cotto, 70-30 fight with Floyd. If he's not gonna fight the best 154lb fighters, then put him against the best 147lbers.

GB and their ****ed up logic lol