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  • El Angel
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    #11
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    Russian boxing/MMA site www.allboxing.ru is reporting Wladimir-Wach has been signed.

    http://www.allboxing.ru/archives/2012-08-02_21_50.html
    Freedom, do you think this fight is competitve? I think Wach's size might lure some people in, but Wlad is just so much better in every way.

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    • Tmann400
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      #12
      Originally posted by crold1
      Wach is absolutely terrible. TERRIBLE. Needed six rounds to get rid of Tye Fields...and is still fighting that level foe 27 in. One of the worst Heavyweight title matches since like Holmes-Rodriguez (in terms of the BIG title) if they make it.
      I have to say Cliff, I slightly disagree. I think TERRIBLE is a bit of an overstatement. For being slow as he is, he seems to be getting things done. He visibly has ridiculous power. I think he's one of those guys who look slower, rough around the edges and awkward, but have better skills then meets the eye, like Froch for example. Do I think he's a certified world beater? No, not by any stretch. But, I think he's better then he looks. And, I just think TERRIBLE is bad way to put it, limited sounds more accurate, IMO.

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      • UnDeniable
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        #13
        I just don't see who Wlad can really fight to catch the publics imagination. Maybe Povetkin?

        He's too good and the division is too weak

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        • Arthur Daley
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          #14
          Originally posted by Alx.
          anyone know if this guy is any good?
          Aye. He's alright.

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          • The Hammer
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Angel
            Freedom, do you think this fight is competitve? I think Wach's size might lure some people in, but Wlad is just so much better in every way.
            Well, Mariusz Wach isn't as bad as some people are saying. Mariusz had a long amateur career and has good fundamental skills. He's never been knocked down, either as an amateur or as a pro.

            Wach is slow, but he has power so when he does land his opponents get hurt. He's 1" taller than Wlad and has 3" longer arms.

            Wladimir should outbox him easily enough, but there will be a real chance of Mariusz landing something big.

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            • Superflo777
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              #16
              Originally posted by Cupocity303
              This will be interesting because of Wach's height and record. Wlad needs these type of fights. One fight against a Old face with name recognition, one fight against a new face with undefeated record who isn't a mandatory. Mix it up.

              Take out the veterans and up and comers.
              Exactly, what Wlad needs most are fights against big, strong super heavyweights who are as big or bigger and taller than him. Wach, Pulev, Fury, Helenius, Price and so forth. IMO Wach would be a much better choice than Solis for Wlad's fight in fall.

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              • paulf
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                #17
                This is the right fight for Wlad.

                Pulev, Ustinov, Wach, Helenius (lol), Povetkin (double lol), and Boystov are all undefeated fighters who haven't fought the Klitschkos but kind of put their names out there. The Klitschkos have exhausted their more well known American opponents like Arreola, Chambers, Haye, ect. and should focus on beating these guys up now.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  I wish Povetkin would man up and fight him.

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                  • crold1
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tmann400
                    I have to say Cliff, I slightly disagree. I think TERRIBLE is a bit of an overstatement. For being slow as he is, he seems to be getting things done. He visibly has ridiculous power. I think he's one of those guys who look slower, rough around the edges and awkward, but have better skills then meets the eye, like Froch for example. Do I think he's a certified world beater? No, not by any stretch. But, I think he's better then he looks. And, I just think TERRIBLE is bad way to put it, limited sounds more accurate, IMO.
                    He fights no one and is getting a cash out before someone with a pulse decks him. Wlad should merk this guy. I understand where you're coming from, but Wach is the sort of fighter who makes me want to change the station. Look forward to Pulev being ready and Helenius getting healthy (still think he's better than the Chisora fight). There are some game young guys coming up.

                    Wach ain't one. Wach is whack.

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                    • Tmann400
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by crold1
                      He fights no one and is getting a cash out before someone with a pulse decks him. Wlad should merk this guy. I understand where you're coming from, but Wach is the sort of fighter who makes me want to change the station. Look forward to Pulev being ready and Helenius getting healthy (still think he's better than the Chisora fight). There are some game young guys coming up.

                      Wach ain't one. Wach is whack.
                      I also see where you're coming from, my friend. Early in Wach's career I thought he was a complete joke, but when he fought Gavern, Fields and Mcbride. He seemed to have solid fundamentals, a decent jab, and for being awkward and on the slower side, he puts combinations together okay. He has a solid chin as well that dates back to the amateurs. He had a long amateur career. So, it's not like he doesn't have skills. But, I do see where you're coming from.

                      But, the main heavyweight prospect I have my eye on at the moment, is someone who's flown under the radar and seems to be avoided, he's big, a southpaw, has very fast hands, has good power, and is probably one of the best combination punchers among the "super" heavyweights, and that's the Cuban Luis Ortiz. This guy is very good. And the only downfall is that he's already 33 at 16-0 (13KO's). But nonetheless, he's very good IMO. He had a very long, and solid amateur career. He's gotten little to no attention from the media, and has only had one televised fight I believe, and one lives treamed fight. If you haven't already seen him Cliff, I'd check him out.

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