Ali, best fighter ever?

**Oasis_Lad** · 12-13-2005, 06:33 PM

Of Course He Was (in My Opinion) Which Is The Ultimate Opinion

**butterfly1964** · 12-13-2005, 06:56 PM

well, let me see. fought and beat the best competition, check. fastest hands, check. fastest feet, check. fastest reflexes, check. fastest EVERYTHING, check. top-notch stamina, check. shocked the world twice, check. best self-promoter, check. backed up what he said, check. broke conventional rules twice, and still succeded, check. unbeatable in his prime, check. then i would say yeah.

**restless_438** · 12-13-2005, 07:35 PM

three words...

Sugar Ray Robinson

but Ali is, of course, up there..

**butterfly1964** · 12-13-2005, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by restless_438

three words...

Sugar Ray Robinson

but Ali is, of course, up there..

four words. o ver ra ted!

**BadMagick** · 12-13-2005, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by butterfly1964

four words. o ver ra ted!

Ali is in a lot of ways, too, by a lot of people. He's one of the greatest fighters ever, sure, but his rank is debatable.

It's impossible to say who's the "best" over every division, but it is possible to say that Ali is NOT the best ever in any division. He'd have a hard time against a lot of guys, like Joe Louis, for example..

**The Noose** · 12-13-2005, 07:53 PM

Its impossible to say who was the best.

There are so many fighters most of us have never seen fight, who were incredible.

I personally think Ali wouldnt have got away with his hands held low style against many great fighters if they were fighting at the same weight.

**winkyisnasty13** · 12-13-2005, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Bobby Peru

Its impossible to say who was the best.

There are so many fighters most of us have never seen fight, who were incredible.

I personally think Ali wouldnt have got away with his hands held low style against many great fighters if they were fighting at the same weight.

you said that perfectly. you are 100% right.

**Da Iceman** · 12-13-2005, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by butterfly1964

well, let me see. fought and beat the best competition, check. fastest hands, check. fastest feet, check. fastest reflexes, check. fastest EVERYTHING, check. top-notch stamina, check. shocked the world twice, check. best self-promoter, check. backed up what he said, check. broke conventional rules twice, and still succeded, check. unbeatable in his prime, check. then i would say yeah.

heavy hitter. sorry no check for you ali

**butterfly1964** · 12-13-2005, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by NextRocky

heavy hitter. sorry no check for you ali

they were heavy enough to stop foreman, lyle, frazier, wepner, bonavena, etc. all excellent chins.

Ali, best fighter ever?