Who is The best at 135?

[dan_cov]

why do you think I am a broner fan? because of the question I asked?

You didn't answer my question about Lundy.

So if I'm reading correctly, broner is 22, in his prime and in his 1st fight at 135, can't fight Hank Lundy because he offers nothing.

The truth is you don't know anything about Lundy, so you judge him based on 2 things: you don't like broner and Broner may fight him. Then Bushbaby posts that and you say MAYBE YOUR BEING A BIT HARSH.

Posters like you that evaluate an opponent based on whether you like or dislike the "a" side fighter really drag down this board.

I have seen him fight at least 4-5 times in which he has looked pretty close to awful in all and been dropped in I think everyone by non punchers, isn't that enough?
If enough people tell somebody they're being a tad harsh they will rethink but I am pretty sure I am right in saying this guy isn't any good and has a weak ass chin and would get sparked out by Broner early doors.

It has nothing to do with me disliking Broner or Lundy, I just think this is a **** fight that will do nothing for Broner.

You Sir might want to see highly regarded prospects being pampered & fighting midgets, bums & guys with glass chins who offer very little resistance all the way upto their 30th-40th-50th pro outing, but I certainly don't.

You may also want to see them fighting some of the worst fighters in the top 10-20 & fleeing the division to another to do the same without fighting the top guys, again I don't.

[dan_cov]

25th pro fight & he still is yet to fight a puncher or a guy nearer to his own size that isn't drained as fawk, eek!

135 is weak as p1sh but there is far better options available.
Somebody that will offer a little bit of resistance would be nice, not too much to ask for is it?

Whats up with fighting Rees? or even Katsidis? Sharif Bogere?
I'm not even asking him to fight the best in the division straight away. Just somebody a little better than Lundy who get blasted into orbit within 3 one sided rounds.

I'd even settle for Art Hovhanisian (sp) Miguel Acosta.
Hank Lundy is honestly no better than Jason Litzau, a guy Broner slapped senseless in 1 round.

[The Big Dunn]

I have seen him fight at least 4-5 times in which he has looked pretty close to awful in all and been dropped in I think everyone by non punchers, isn't that enough?
If enough people tell somebody they're being a tad harsh they will rethink but I am pretty sure I am right in saying this guy isn't any good and has a weak ass chin and would get sparked out by Broner early doors.

It has nothing to do with me disliking Broner or Lundy, I just think this is a **** fight that will do nothing for Broner.

You Sir might want to see highly regarded prospects being pampered & fighting midgets, bums & guys with glass chins who offer very little resistance all the way upto their 30th-40th-50th pro outing, but I certainly don't.

You may also want to see them fighting some of the worst fighters in the top 10-20 & fleeing the division to another to do the same without fighting the top guys, again I don't.

If Broner makes a guy look like a bum, like he did escobedo, maybe broner is just good. Rober Guerrero is a world class fighter right now. Not elite, ut very good. Escobedo went 12 rds with him before this fight. He was no bum.

We all prefer great fights. But when you get a dominating performance from a young fighter, I hope you hold them all in the same light whether its a **** talking young brother, a mexican, pinoy, etc etc.

[RichCCFC]

Abril is the best atm

[jayjames616]

25th pro fight & he still is yet to fight a puncher or a guy nearer to his own size that isn't drained as fawk, eek!

135 is weak as p1sh but there is far better options available.
Somebody that will offer a little bit of resistance would be nice, not too much to ask for is it?

Whats up with fighting Rees? or even Katsidis? Sharif Bogere?
I'm not even asking him to fight the best in the division straight away. Just somebody a little better than Lundy who get blasted into orbit within 3 one sided rounds.

I'd even settle for Art Hovhanisian (sp) Miguel Acosta.
Hank Lundy is honestly no better than Jason Litzau, a guy Broner slapped senseless in 1 round.

Everyone wants the best fights to be made but its VERY obvious you are hoping Broner will lose and it is pathetic, how you are going about saying it. You are trying to throw dirt on potential opponents name so when Broner beats them you can discredit him. Lundy isn't great but to say he is a bum and is no better than Litzau is crazy. Just because you get dominated by a fighter as talented as Broner doesn't mean you are not a good boxer.

Quit with the smoke screening of your dislike for Broner and say you hope he jumps over 135 because no one there can beat him and you hope the guys his size or bigger at 140 can beat his a$$.

[dan_cov]

Everyone wants the best fights to be made but its VERY obvious you are hoping Broner will lose and it is pathetic, how you are going about saying it. You are trying to throw dirt on potential opponents name so when Broner beats them you can discredit him. Lundy isn't great but to say he is a bum and is no better than Litzau is crazy. Just because you get dominated by a fighter as talented as Broner doesn't mean you are not a good boxer.

Quit with the smoke screening of your dislike for Broner and say you hope he jumps over 135 because no one there can beat him and you hope the guys his size or bigger at 140 can beat his a$$.

I am not hoping he will lose, I am more hoping he will soon fight somebody capable of testing him so we can see if he really is as good as said.
Just about any mediocre fighter can look spectacular against guys half their size who are frankly not very good.

Its quite the opposite, its people like YOU who try make out these very ordinary fighters with huge disadvantages are a legit threat & a good challenge knowing full well they haven't a chance in hell in an attempt to give people like Broner credit where it isn't due.

What has Lundy ever done to prove he is actually better than Litzau?

I suppose you are one of these that are saying Broner is a future P4P king, he would beat Marquez etc etc yet you are saying Lundy is for real? Behave.

[dan_cov]

If Broner makes a guy look like a bum, like he did escobedo, maybe broner is just good. Rober Guerrero is a world class fighter right now. Not elite, ut very good. Escobedo went 12 rds with him before this fight. He was no bum.

We all prefer great fights. But when you get a dominating performance from a young fighter, I hope you hold them all in the same light whether its a **** talking young brother, a mexican, pinoy, etc etc.

I wasn't overly impressed with it, he made Escobedo drain himself something silly whilst he seemingly came in at what he pleased rather unprofessionally though it was a pretty good performance I give him that. He stopped him in 5, The Ghost for me fought a better version, dropped him twice & near enough shut him out which IMO is just as good.

Race, colour, nationality has nothing to do with it. I support & follow boxers of all colours, nationalities & race.

I want to see him tested, I really do believe Escobedo is better than Lundy, do you not? Shouldn't he be making progress?

[jayjames616]

I am not hoping he will lose, I am more hoping he will soon fight somebody capable of testing him so we can see if he really is as good as said.
Just about any mediocre fighter can look spectacular against guys half their size who are frankly not very good.

Its quite the opposite, its people like YOU who try make out these very ordinary fighters with huge disadvantages are a legit threat & a good challenge knowing full well they haven't a chance in hell in an attempt to give people like Broner credit where it isn't due.

What has Lundy ever done to prove he is actually better than Litzau?

I suppose you are one of these that are saying Broner is a future P4P king, he would beat Marquez etc etc yet you are saying Lundy is for real? Behave.

You are just proving you don't know how to recognize talent. If you can't watch Litzau and Lundy fight and see who's better you can't evaluate talent. When you watch Broner and you see a ordinary fighter, you can't evaluate talent.

Do I think Broner will be the future p4p champ? It is too early to tell.
Do I think Broner can beat Marquez? Not currently, but I would not be shocked one bit.
Do I think Broner has the potential to be the face of boxing? Absolutely, if Adrien continues to progress in the and gain haters along the way, he will be the biggest name in the sport in no time.

[dan_cov]

You are just proving you don't know how to recognize talent. If you can't watch Litzau and Lundy fight and see who's better you can't evaluate talent. When you watch Broner and you see a ordinary fighter, you can't evaluate talent.

Do I think Broner will be the future p4p champ? It is too early to tell.
Do I think Broner can beat Marquez? Not currently, but I would not be shocked one bit.
Do I think Broner has the potential to be the face of boxing? Absolutely, if Adrien continues to progress in the and gain haters along the way, he will be the biggest name in the sport in no time.

I don't think Broner is 'ordinary' I think his competition has been, at best.
I don't pay no attention to people on here that say I can't evaluate talent, I know **** etc because more often than not on here these are the people that fall for the hypejobs time & time again, they then often make excuses about age etc, its a vicious circle they never learn from because they aren't willing to admit they was wrong. These are usually the people who are the worst at predictions & lose the most money on betting etc
Boxing is all about opinions, nobody is correct 100% of the time.

I don't hate the guy or anything, I am just struggling to see how you're all contempt of saying he can be the face of boxing etc when you have nothing to base it off.
He can be the face of boxing because he fought a dehydrated Escobedo who frankly has never been a world beater at any weight?
He hasn't even been tested & fights at such an advantage its no wonder he looks good.

Its almost the equivalent of putting a prospect like say George Groves in with a smaller, barely top 15 middleweight and saying ''Wow future P4P king, face of boxing, I think he can beat Andre Ward'' Its crazy talk.

[Light_Speed]

Abril is the best lightweight in the world.