Comments Thread For: Lara vs. Vanes Purse Bid is Scheduled By WBC For 7/27

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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #51
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    Then, even though I know you're not, let's say you're right.

    If Kirk-Angulo was a semi, then what was Kirk-Molina?

    Then, while you're at it, show me what eliminator Mosley and Cintron fought in?
    It was also a semi-eliminator. I don't think it's right that they have be fighting all these eliminators or that it even make sense, but they knew beforehand it would only be a semi-eliminator.

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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #52
      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
      It was also a semi-eliminator. I don't think it's right that they have be fighting all these eliminators or that it even make sense, but they knew beforehand it would only be a semi-eliminator.
      No it wasn't semi anything.

      Sauliman himself said the winner of Kirk-Angulo would fight Canelo.

      Again, what eliminator did Mosley and Cintron fight in?

      I can't believe you really believe that a guy had to fight in two semi-eliminators lol

      If that's the case, then what eliminators were Lara and Vanes fighting in while this was going on? An eliminator to the eliminators eliminator?

      Since you seem so knowledgable, explain how this whole process went down from start to finish.

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      • LA_2_Vegas
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        #53
        all politics and promotional issues aside....Vanes should take this fight, he has the footspeed to make the matchup very competitive if it goes to the cards

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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #54
          No it wasn't semi anything.
          So you know more than Golden Boy, Kirkland and Angulo's own promoter? I didn't realize you were so close to the negotiations. I'm just going by Golden Boy's own information.

          Cintron and Mosley were voluntary defenses.


          I can't believe you really believe that a guy had to fight in two semi-eliminators lol
          When it's come to the WBC, I can believe anything. Never said it made sense.
          Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 07-05-2012, 06:01 PM.

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          • garfios
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            #55
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
            No it wasn't semi anything.

            Sauliman himself said the winner of Kirk-Angulo would fight Canelo.

            Again, what eliminator did Mosley and Cintron fight in?

            I can't believe you really believe that a guy had to fight in two semi-eliminators lol

            If that's the case, then what eliminators were Lara and Vanes fighting in while this was going on? An eliminator to the eliminators eliminator?

            Since you seem so knowledgable, explain how this whole process went down from start to finish.
            He even said that Kirk-Can was a mandatory, of course before Kirk drop out the fight, then the #1 contender at time do to Vanes refusal to fight him was demoted without any reason at all to the #3 spot, now the WBC have Cotto (coming from a loss) at #1, Kirk (injured) #2 and Lara that has won his last two fight at #3, go figured they might be using sabermetrics...

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            • Ringlife
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              #56
              So whats the point of a purse bid then.

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              • boliodogs
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                #57
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                Lets the hate start for Vanes. It's not like he hasn't been in a title eliminator already.

                I mean the champion, the actual title holder is doing the same thing, but Vanes is getting hated on, wow.

                BTw if this fight gets made, I put points up says Vanes pulls the upset.
                It's nice to see not everyone hates Vanes, just 95%. Vanes says he will take the fight and I believe him. Time will tell. I don't see any of the champions or other contenders saying yes to Lara. I think Vanes has a chance to beat Lara.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  It's nice to see not everyone hates Vanes, just 95%. Vanes says he will take the fight and I believe him. Time will tell. I don't see any of the champions or other contenders saying yes to Lara. I think Vanes has a chance to beat Lara.
                  What kind a fight fan would I be if I bash Vanes for being tired of title eliminators when the champ ducks the entire division?? Oh wait, that's 90% of boxingscene.

                  Hell I put out a 5-1 offer on Vanes with whoever's game. My 1 bill, to anyone's 5.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #59
                    If the Vanes vs. Lara fight happens the winner may not get the next fight with Canelo. It would still be an important fight between two of the best Jr. middleweights in the World. The WBC is probably the worst of all the alphabet groups. They don't follow their own rules. They just do what they want when they want to do it. 154 pounds is a very strong weight class but the best need to fight the best more often.

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                    • nycsmooth
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                      #60
                      2 much back tracking & w/another eliminator...@ the time 6 months ago, Vanes was & had been #1 but was deemed 2 difficult 4 Alvarez, so no bout...what happens between him & Lara, what xcuse does Alvarez & GBP make???

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