Calzaghe SMW reign vs. Hopkins MW reign

[Bring It On]

... and Hopkins went on to fight undefeated Taylor, Tarver, Wright ( was 2nd p4p at the time ), undeafeated Pavlik who was seen as a monster, Pascal and then Dawson after the age of 40.

Ok, let's see... He lost the Tarver-fights, and the other fights you mentioned wasn't at MW so they're irrelevant to this thread/poll.

[MRBOOMER]

Ok, let's see... He lost the Tarver-fights, and the other fights you mentioned wasn't at MW so they're irrelevant to this thread/poll.

He lost the tarver fights? News to me considering they only fought once

[-PBP-]

Taylor 1 was debateable. Let's be real:

Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
TheSweetScience.com: 117-111 Taylor
Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-113 Taylor
Kevin Iole, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Hopkins
Max Kellerman, HBO: 115-113 Hopkins
Michael Katz, Reuters: 115-113 Hopkins
Paul Upham, SecondsOut.com: 115-113 Hopkins
Associated Press: 114-113 Hopkins
Ramiro Gonzalez, La Opinion: 116-112 Hopkins
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Hopkins
David Mayo, Grand Rapids Press: 116-112 Hopkins
Keith Idec, New Jersey Herald-News: 116-112 Hopkins
David Avila, Riverside Press Enterprise: 116-112 Hopkins
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Hopkins
Ron Borges,Boston Globe: 116-112 Hopkins
Joe Santoloquito, The Ring Magazine: 116-113 Hopkins
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 117-111 Hopkins
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 117-111 Hopkins
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Hopkins
Ivan Goldman, The Ring Magazine: 117-111 Hopkins

[IronDanHamza]

Taylor 1 was debateable. Let's be real:

Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
TheSweetScience.com: 117-111 Taylor
Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-113 Taylor
Kevin Iole, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Hopkins
Max Kellerman, HBO: 115-113 Hopkins
Michael Katz, Reuters: 115-113 Hopkins
Paul Upham, SecondsOut.com: 115-113 Hopkins
Associated Press: 114-113 Hopkins
Ramiro Gonzalez, La Opinion: 116-112 Hopkins
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Hopkins
David Mayo, Grand Rapids Press: 116-112 Hopkins
Keith Idec, New Jersey Herald-News: 116-112 Hopkins
David Avila, Riverside Press Enterprise: 116-112 Hopkins
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Hopkins
Ron Borges,Boston Globe: 116-112 Hopkins
Joe Santoloquito, The Ring Magazine: 116-113 Hopkins
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 117-111 Hopkins
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 117-111 Hopkins
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Hopkins
Ivan Goldman, The Ring Magazine: 117-111 Hopkins

I thought Hopkins won the first fight with Taylor clearly.

[ИATAS]

Ok, let's see... He lost the Tarver-fights, and the other fights you mentioned wasn't at MW so they're irrelevant to this thread/poll.

doesn't matter that he "lost" to Taylor.

beating undefeated glen Johnson and Trinidad alone is better than anything joe did at smw. not too mention hopkins fought and beat every top fighter in the division, which calzaghe didn't do (as pointed out he only fought TWO top 5 guys that entire time).

its really a no brainer.

[Cardinal Buck]

Kessler>Trinidad (NOT pfp)

Lacy, Eubank> Holmes, Joppy

Reid tie Johnson. (Reid was more highly regarded before and after the Calzaghe fight.
Johnson would eventually shine years later)

Mitchell < ODLH

Brewer > Echols (I know Echols eeked out a win over Brewer in a classic. I still prefer Brewer who was a champ)

Bika, Woodhall < Eastman, Mercado (close)

Veit < Allen

Hakkar and Pudwill could be the two most pathetic title challengers of the last 20 years.


I side with Calzaghe because I like his best wins more, but Hopkins edges the second tier wins. And I did score both Taylor-Hopkins fights for Taylor.

[Larry the boss]

polls are close

[ИATAS]

Kessler>Trinidad (NOT pfp)

Lacy, Eubank> Holmes, Joppy

Reid tie Johnson. (Reid was more highly regarded before and after the Calzaghe fight.
Johnson would eventually shine years later)

Mitchell < ODLH

Brewer > Echols (I know Echols eeked out a win over Brewer in a classic. I still prefer Brewer who was a champ)

Bika, Woodhall < Eastman, Mercado (close)

Veit < Allen

Hakkar and Pudwill could be the two most pathetic title challengers of the last 20 years.

lmao you are mentally ******ed.

[Canelo Phresh]

Hopkins is on Haglers level and probably higher.

[Cardinal Buck]

lmao you are mentally ******ed.

you know it sounds ****** to type "lmao" if nothing is really funny, right?

Take Veit and Allen, I have little opinion of those guys. Echols ******.

Reid was a former champ who was basically peaking when he fought Calzaghe. Reid apparently got legitimately ripped off against Ottke, unlike Johnson. And Johnson wasn't relevant anytime remotely close to when he fought Hopkins, before or after. I'm not comparing Johnson and Reid's resume's, but that's a tough concept to understand. I know.

Reid>Johnson, correction.