Lucas Mattyhsse vs Manny Pacquiao

[BoxingGenius27]

He didn't knock out Judah, he didn't knock out Devon Alexander, and he handled their speed and punching just fine. But he's going to knock out Pacquiao if he can handle his speed and power.

Think about what you are saying.

Judah and Alexander didn't get in the exchanges and try to show machismo like Pac will.

Pac won't run from Mathysse. He'll actually try to go toe to toe.

After Judah and Alexander tasted Mathysse's power they either ran for dear life or held. Pac will do neither. That's where I think the problem might rise.

[johncods]

Judah and Alexander didn't get in the exchanges and try to show machismo like Pac will.

Pac won't run from Mathysse. He'll actually try to go toe to toe.

After Judah and Alexander tasted Mathysse's power they either ran for dear life or held. Pac will do neither. That's where I think the problem might rise.

Wait you actually think pac would lose to lucas in a war? How did cotto, hatton and margarito do when they showed their machismo against pac? what did mosley and clottey do after feeling pac's power?

[bojangles1987]

Judah and Alexander didn't get in the exchanges and try to show machismo like Pac will.

Pac won't run from Mathysse. He'll actually try to go toe to toe.

After Judah and Alexander tasted Mathysse's power they either ran for dear life or held. Pac will do neither. That's where I think the problem might rise.

Both got smacked, smacked often, and smacked hard. At least as much as Pacquiao would have to deal with.

Pacquiao is way better in a toe to toe fight than you are giving him credit for. He has great accuracy, he throws fast, he throws hard, he sets up his shots beautifully. Lucas is completely tailor made for him. Even faded, no guy who comes at Pacquiao is beating him. It's not as simple as "if he can handle the power and speed." No one can handle the power and speed if they don't have the style to neutralize it, and Lucas doesn't.

[BoxingGenius27]

Now you are comparing bradley to matthyse. They are two different fighters. Bradley has great head movement and overall faster than lucas. Lucas is right in your face and loves to trade leather. He is there to be hit. And when pac fights someone that is there to be hit they get hurt.

Yes, I'm comparing times in the Bradley-Pac fight where Tim demonstrated a fighting style like Mathysse. There were times when Bradley exchanged and came forward and did pretty damn good, I might add. A feat that Mathysse will definitely do; no doubt.

Sure Mathysse will get hit, but like I said before. "IF" he can handle Pac's speed and power and Pac can't keep him off, Pac is in dire trouble.

Bradley is a better defensive fighter and was making Pac miss in ways Matthysse would not. He also wasn't going forward exchanging the entire fight, or even entire rounds, the way Lucas would. Bradley is lying his ass off to say Pac's power wasn't special, considering his ass got hurt multiple times.

And Kendall Holt arguably has bigger one punch power than Pacquiao, that's not a ridiculous statement.

Well that's weird to me, because Pac dropped Mosley with one punch. Why could Holt drop Bradley, but Pac can't?

That schit is weird as hell to me because not only has Mosley been in with "all" the great fighters, but they were in their "prime" and they still couldn't do what Pac did. Now you're saying Holt has more punching power then big dudes like DLH, Wright, Mayorga, Cotto, Forrest, ect????

Pac pre-Marquez III is just a weird fighter man.

[AndNewChampion]

Judah and Alexander didn't get in the exchanges and try to show machismo like Pac will.

Pac won't run from Mathysse. He'll actually try to go toe to toe.

After Judah and Alexander tasted Mathysse's power they either ran for dear life or held. Pac will do neither. That's where I think the problem might rise.

So you think Matthyse hits harder than Cotto?

Pac takes shots, and comes back.

Pac could move too, like he did VS Marg...

Matthyse can hit a dude like Soto who firstly does not have the speed as Pac, but more decisively, the power. Matthyse would be eating a lot of shots.

Soto showed Matthyse can be beaten round by round with a jab and speed. Matthyse barely beat Judah.

Matthyse is extremely easy to hit, Soto had some many connects, and no one should ever come forward like that VS Pac.

Marg basically became one eyed.

Matthyse is tailor made for Pac.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pacquiao wins this, but I like that Matthysse isn't being passive in the ring, that cost him a lot of rounds against Juadah and Alexander, he's gonna push the issue a lot more from the looks of it.

[BoxingGenius27]

Wait you actually think pac would lose to lucas in a war? How did cotto, hatton and margarito do when they showed their machismo against pac? what did mosley and clottey do after feeling pac's power?

Dude, how many times do I have to keep repeating myself.

YES, for the 12th time. If Lucas can handle his speed and power, which I doubt, but IF he can, YES, Lucas would defeat Pac.

Again, LMAO @ you mentioning Mosley and Margarito. I seriously doubt you know anything you're talking about.

Both got smacked, smacked often, and smacked hard. At least as much as Pacquiao would have to deal with.

Pacquiao is way better in a toe to toe fight than you are giving him credit for. He has great accuracy, he throws fast, he throws hard, he sets up his shots beautifully. Lucas is completely tailor made for him. Even faded, no guy who comes at Pacquiao is beating him. It's not as simple as "if he can handle the power and speed." No one can handle the power and speed if they don't have the style to neutralize it, and Lucas doesn't.

Dude, again, IF he can handle his power and speed, he will win.

If he can't, he will lose and lose miserably. But IF he can, he will win and win convincingly.

I can't get more straight, clear, straight-forward than that.

[J-Smooth]

Judah and Alexander didn't get in the exchanges and try to show machismo like Pac will.

Pac won't run from Mathysse. He'll actually try to go toe to toe.

After Judah and Alexander tasted Mathysse's power they either ran for dear life or held. Pac will do neither. That's where I think the problem might rise.

Pac never goes toe to toe he's a in and out boxer. Always on his toes throwing straits and darting to the side

[boxing2106]

Manny is 1-dimensional everything about him is overrated especially his power.

Same old crap, he is a one trick pony, you show him any movement at all and he doesn't know WTF to do & neither does his trainer for that matter. Lucas would cripple him with bodyshots.

Soto could of done everything Manny has if he had the same team behind him.

All Manny is is a product of intelligent marketing management. I'm bored to death of him getting exposed and hearing excuses.

The only guy around 147 who has any chance against Lucas apart from Floyd is Marquez. The rest get smashed the fcuk out!

maidana gives him hell aswell as Guzman

[AndNewChampion]

Yes, I'm comparing times in the Bradley-Pac fight where Tim demonstrated a fighting style like Mathysse. There were times when Bradley exchanged and came forward and did pretty damn good, I might add. A feat that Mathysse will definitely do; no doubt.

Sure Mathysse will get hit, but like I said before. "IF" he can handle Pac's speed and power and Pac can't keep him off, Pac is in dire trouble.



Well that's weird to me, because Pac dropped Mosley with one punch. Why could Holt drop Bradley, but Pac can't?

That schit is weird as hell to me because not only has Mosley been in with "all" the great fighters, but they were in their "prime" and they still couldn't do what Pac did. Now you're saying Holt has more punching power then big dudes like DLH, Wright, Mayorga, Cotto, Forrest, ect????

Pac pre-Marquez III is just a weird fighter man.

Er when Bradley did the in fighting, which actually Pac kept gesturing him to do, he was hit. Pac would unleash and land, or miss, but Bradley has excellent body movement which Matthyse does not have. Watch Matthyse vs others and see him pretty much no head or body movement because he wants to land shots.

Holt has very solid power if he connects. VS Torres he had an amazing KO.

Bradley is a hell of a lot more experienced than the one VS Holt, he even said that fight taught him a lot.