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  • #81
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Again I highly doubt that, if anything I think Bradley will do better in the rematch now he has felt his power, has an idea of his handspeed, the angles he throws etc

    If Holts best punch couldn't render him unconcious when his conditioning wasn't as good as it today what makes you think Pac will K.O him?

    I think Pacquaio likely takes it but I do highly doubt he stops Bradley let alone renders his unconcious. After all I didn't think he particularly hurt Bradley first time round.
    He hurt Bradley, Bradley is just a tough and resilient son of a b*tch. I agree that Bradley would do better in a rematch.

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    • #82
      whirlwind is still angry about june 9th lol

      pac lost, get over it

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      • #83
        Originally posted by johncods View Post
        I just pointed out how you said pac would be in trouble if he can't hurt or fend off lucas. Dude anybody who comes after pac gets hurt. it's been proven time and again.
        Because he will be in trouble if he can't fend him off.

        Bradley was coming forward after the 7th round through the end of the fight and exchanging with Pac.

        Bradley.... Who doesn't hit nowhere as hard as Mathysse.

        Bradley said he felt Pac's power, but didn't see what the big deal that everyone was making it out to be.

        Bradley was going toe to toe with Pac and got dropped not one time. If we're checking stats from other fights, didn't Holt drop Bradley twice???

        This is coming from someone that thought Pac would stop Bradley, especially if Tim chose to exchange. Pac let me down.

        I really don't know what to think about Pac anymore. I don't know if he was roiding from the DLH fights through the Mosley fight or what. I just don't know.

        Damn, does that mean the Kendall Holt hits harder than Pac??
        Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 06-25-2012, 10:28 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
          He didn't knock out Judah, he didn't knock out Devon Alexander, and he handled their speed and punching just fine. But he's going to knock out Pacquiao if he can handle his speed and power.

          Think about what you are saying.

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          • #85
            If Mattyhsse couldn't do enough to beat Zab or Devon, you really think he could beat Pac?

            One dimensional or not, Pac would destroy him.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by AndNewChampion View Post
              Matthyse couldn't KO Alexander or Judah, he isn't KOing Pac.
              Matthyse has heavy handed but he doesn't have the speed.
              Pac would actually land most of his shots because Matthyse is there in your face.
              Soto landed a **** load on Matthyse, just he was weaker.
              Matthyse has slow feet, a slow jab, and wins on power, but IMO Pac's power is better than his.


              Nobody has ever K.Od Alexander and Matthysse is the only guy to ever drop him to my knowledge. We've seen how good Alexanders chin is, it really is one of the best in boxing & Lucas still cracked it.

              You're underestimating Lucas, he is not a slow fighter, hes not amazingly fast but he is far from a slouch.

              What Lucas doesn't have in speed he makes up with in timing. I.E that perfect overhand right he cracked Soto with.
              Timing beats speed.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                Because he will be in trouble if he can't fend him off.

                Bradley was coming forward after the 7th round through the end of the fight and exchanging with Pac.

                Bradley.... Who doesn't hit nowhere as hard as Mathysse.

                Bradley said he felt Pac's power, but didn't see what the big deal that everyone was making it out to be.

                Bradley was going toe to toe with Pac and got dropped not one time. If we're checking stats from other fights, didn't Holt drop Bradley twice???

                Damn, does that mean the Kendall Holt hits harder than Pac??
                Now you are comparing bradley to matthyse. They are two different fighters. Bradley has great head movement and overall faster than lucas. Lucas is right in your face and loves to trade leather. He is there to be hit. And when pac fights someone that is there to be hit they get hurt.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by raf727 View Post
                  If Mattyhsse couldn't do enough to beat Zab or Devon, you really think he could beat Pac?

                  One dimensional or not, Pac would destroy him.


                  He was robbed! Come on bro we all know he was robbed though I don't believe he was at his best then. Now he is certainly in his prime.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                    Nobody has ever K.Od Alexander and Matthysse is the only guy to ever drop him to my knowledge. We've seen how good Alexanders chin is, it really is one of the best in boxing & Lucas still cracked it.

                    You're underestimating Lucas, he is not a slow fighter, hes not amazingly fast but he is far from a slouch.

                    What Lucas doesn't have in speed he makes up with in timing. I.E that perfect overhand right he cracked Soto with.
                    Timing beats speed.
                    Didn't you just discredit pac's power because he could not KO mosley, JMM and Bradley?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                      Because he will be in trouble if he can't fend him off.

                      Bradley was coming forward after the 7th round through the end of the fight and exchanging with Pac.

                      Bradley.... Who doesn't hit nowhere as hard as Mathysse.

                      Bradley said he felt Pac's power, but didn't see what the big deal that everyone was making it out to be.

                      Bradley was going toe to toe with Pac and got dropped not one time. If we're checking stats from other fights, didn't Holt drop Bradley twice???

                      Damn, does that mean the Kendall Holt hits harder than Pac??
                      Bradley is a better defensive fighter and was making Pac miss in ways Matthysse would not. He also wasn't going forward exchanging the entire fight, or even entire rounds, the way Lucas would. Bradley is lying his ass off to say Pac's power wasn't special, considering his ass got hurt multiple times.

                      And Kendall Holt arguably has bigger one punch power than Pacquiao, that's not a ridiculous statement.

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