Ortiz - Lopez & Undercards RBR Discussion

[Frogs!]

No its not, he's gonna be Zab Judah like... always hanging around for years to come.

from where he is now, or supposed to be, that's downhill.

[Khalid X]

nah, i think its u guys who are delusional. that kinda **** turns ppl off about him. same thing he did in the floyd and maidana fights. ask anyone on here, im a fan of his, always have been thru just about everything. but seriously, that was it. u dont get that many chances in this sport. i think ortiz has ran outta chances.

1st of all I don't see how anyone can put this in the same category as the Maidana and Mayweather fight.

The only reason I can think that someone would be foolish enough to do so is that they A. Never boxed before. B. Don't know the seriousness of a broken jaw.

Now as far as him smiling/laughing......well all I'm saying is that maybe that's just a way he has learned to handled disappointment.

To be honest that's a Sigmund Freud defense mechanism's called Reaction Formation.

Alot of people do that....and it isn't something that is abnormal or indicative of Ortiz having mental issues.

[Guest]

hes not a good enough **** talker. he keeps that nice guy persona and no1 takes him seriously and after tonite, who can blame them.

It is true, he's a dummy.

But it's fun watching dummies lose.

[Frogs!]

He can turn into Mayorga now.

Keep talking all kinds of ***** then get beat up, forget about it, then do it again.

That tactic made Mayorga millions. Ortiz can do that too.

i see him more as a golota more than a mayorga.

i'm pretty sure you can emphatize.

[Bee Keepz]

No its not, he's gonna be Zab Judah like... always hanging around for years to come.

Yup, still exciting to watch.

[Kagami Taiga]

1st of all I don't see how anyone can put this in the same category as the Maidana and Mayweather fight.

The only reason I can think that someone would be foolish enough to do so is that they A. Never boxed before. B. Don't know the seriousness of a broken jaw.

Now as far as him smiling/laughing......well all I'm saying is that maybe that's just a way he has learned to handled disappointment.

To be honest that's a Sigmund Freud defense mechanism's called Reaction Formation.

Alot of people do that....and it isn't something that is abnormal or indicative of Ortiz having mental issues.

look ur going into psychology. at the end of the day, no1 is gonna care if it was a reaction to this or that, ortiz just lost, got his jaw broken and ruined a chance at a mega payday. and what does he do? laugh. everyone already thinks the guy is strange. like i said i was a big fan, not anymore. hes not built to be at the top of this sport, that much is clear. so sure, hes a good fighter, mebbe really good, but in the end, hes turned into a waste of talent.

[mathed]

He can turn into Mayorga now.

Keep talking all kinds of ***** then get beat up, forget about it, then do it again.

That tactic made Mayorga millions. Ortiz can do that too.

Sad but that's all he has at this point. To think that people were touting him to be the next BIG thing in boxing.

[Weebler I]

I think Ortiz saw this fight as a foregone conclusion, that all he had to do was turn up tonight, perform to a decent level and he'd be getting his hand raised and a big payday in September.

Lopez is no mug, so Ortiz should really have been using this fight as a platform to put on a flawless display in preparation for the Canelo fight. Even before the stoppage, his defense looked very sloppy and he was making a lot of mistakes whenever Lopez put him under pressure.

Victor kept trading with him and the Lopes's hands were too fast. When he boxed him he was winning. I think there will be a rematch, who wouldn't want to see that again.

[Chuckguy]

hes not a good enough **** talker. he keeps that nice guy persona and no1 takes him seriously and after tonite, who can blame them.

Hey dumb sh I t since u are an elite boxer and sen
To know the answers to everything, how would u react to what just happened? What Is your expertise advise?

[Khalid X]

look ur going into psychology. at the end of the day, no1 is gonna care if it was a reaction to this or that, ortiz just lost, got his jaw broken and ruined a chance at a mega payday. and what does he do? laugh. everyone already thinks the guy is strange. like i said i was a big fan, not anymore. hes not built to be at the top of this sport, that much is clear. so sure, hes a good fighter, mebbe really good, but in the end, hes turned into a waste of talent.

To be honest I'm just giving you an answer to your question as to why Ortiz reacts they way he does in certain situations.

I'm not an Ortiz fan....never have been, but I can see where you are coming from as far as being frustrated with him as a fighter.