Did Pac ducked Soto, Valero, and Raheem?

[CHOWWOKKA]

Didn't Pacquiao duck Mark Johnson too?

[NearHypnos]

Why is Pac ducked Raheem? Pac was scheduled to fight Morales next win or lose for the anticipated rematch.. After Pac demolished Morales the most next logical fight is Raheem who beat Morales but that bum lost to a shot Freitas. Pac finished his trilogy with Morales, Raheem was fighting bums then lost again to Funeka.

<__<...Morales hadn't been coming off a win in any of the Pac fights. Raheem would have at least come in with a decent win over what many considered an aging Morales at the time. If Pac gets credit, why not Raheem for beating him prior? Does it matter who he lost to AFTER? It's who many think he should have fought. Freitas might have been up there, but it's not like he was shockingly shot either.


You can argue Pac might have been ducking Valero I suppose, but Pac had a good thing going, why risk it? :|...Bob Logic

[Luilun]

I think Valero ducked good fighters and beat up on no names

Valero Ducked No one he was banned from fighting in the states. Valero beat Delahoya so bad they had to fire him as a sparring partner

[Luilun]

Raheem, Nate Campbell, Joan Guzman...YES!

Soto and Valero...NO!

Never mind the idiots talking about "Raheem Was A Joke" we are talking about the fighters THEN, sure we can look at things AFTER THE FACT and say "Pacquiao would have beating this or that guy" but that is just a fans opinion, nobody knows how those fights would have went but those fighters had styles that Pacquiao would of had problems with FOR SURE!

By looking at your list I'd say your ******ed I'm surprized they teach computer usuage in special Ed

[ИATAS]

lol @ ducking a bus driver.

only person is raheem, but even then he agreed to rematch morales before morales lost to raheem. plus it was pacs revenge fight not to mention boatloads of more cash. after that raheem lost and became irrelevant.

[whirlwind]

<__<...Morales hadn't been coming off a win in any of the Pac fights. Raheem would have at least come in with a decent win over what many considered an aging Morales at the time. If Pac gets credit, why not Raheem for beating him prior? Does it matter who he lost to AFTER? It's who many think he should have fought. Freitas might have been up there, but it's not like he was shockingly shot either.


You can argue Pac might have been ducking Valero I suppose, but Pac had a good thing going, why risk it? :|...Bob Logic

Raheem. Pac was scheduled to fight Morales next win or lose for the anticipated rematch.. After Pac demolished Morales in rematch, the most next logical fight is Raheem who beat Morales but that bum lost to a shot Freitas. Pac finished his trilogy with Morales, Raheem was fighting bums then lost again to Funeka. If Raheem was that good he should never allowed himself to lose against Freitas to get a shot against Pacquaio beside the fight between Morales vs Raheem happened at 135 in year 2005 and Pac only moved up at 135 in year 2008 where bum Raheem is nowhere to be found.

Soto. When Pac moved up to 126 in year 2003 and moved up again to 130 in year 2005-2007. Pac was beating back to back the likes of Barrera, Marquez, Morales and nobody knows who Soto is. Only after Soto beat Pacquaio's brother Bobby in June 2007 then the talk came out about the possible fight of the two to avenge the lost but most boxing fans didn't buy the idea by simply comparing Soto to < Morales, Barrera, Marquez. Soto lost to Guzman in November 2007 following the same year only made the matter worst. Then in year 2008 Pac moved up to 135 then at 140 while Soto remained at 130.

Valero. Valero and Pacquaio were never in the same weight class to fight. Pac was always above 1 or 2 weight classes for Valero when his name became well known until he committed suicide.

Only the Floydiot will try to twist these facts and in the end will only prove themselves they really an idiot.

[MRBOOMER]

Wait, so Pac was supposed to jump to 135 to fight Raheem one fight into his 130 career? You really expected him at that time to jump two weight classes in less that 6 months?!?

Didn't he do that when he fought deylahoya then down to 140 then back to 147 it's not like he couldn't move up and down weights

[ADP02]

Didn't he do that when he fought deylahoya then down to 140 then back to 147 it's not like he couldn't move up and down weights

Manny moved up to 130 and LOST .... Raheem is just a name that Manny haters bring up even though it made no sense at the time!

Also, remember that some of you were saying that Manny avoided Marquez even though they fought twice back then .... so what would you say if Manny didn't try to revenge his loss to Morales?

The more you really think about it the more it SHOULD make sense why Manny fought Morales and not Raheem at 135 but that will not stop someone from making another thread like this in a couple of months from now.

[boliodogs]

He didn't duck any of those three. He just took other, immensely more profitable fights. His career record wouldn't be regarded much different with Raheem or Soto on it and neither was a real threat. If someone wanted to argue willfully ignoring Guzman at 22/26, I'd listen but everyone else did too.

Valero? Really? How did he duck a guy who couldn't legally fight in the U.S. until right around his short move to Lightweight and subsequent meltdown. That's just silly.

I agree with this.I have read on this thread of at least 6 guys that he ducked in a time frame of a year or two. Unless he fought about 10 times a year he could not fight all these guys. If he did he would be accused of ducking someone else. What fighter on the face of the earth has fought Varero, Raheem, Soto, Guzman, Campbell and whoever else he supposedly ducked. That's right, no one.It is also possible that he tried to fight some of these guys but could not come to terms with them. Anyway why should he have to fight all these guys if nobody else has? He has to make choices based on risk and reward just like every other prize fighter. He can never satisfy all his critics, it's impossible.

[betmen]

didnt he do that after he fought Jmm the 2nd time?

yeah, for money