Did Pac ducked Soto, Valero, and Raheem?

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  • Pacroid
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    #1

    Did Pac ducked Soto, Valero, and Raheem?

    I remember when Morales fought Raheem at 135, they were sayin Pac was 130.. and 135 was too much for him.. When he moved up in weight at 135 Soto was calling him out.. never happen.. When he was 140 Valero was the WBC champ never happen. Since there was no Pac-Soto, or Valero fight, i remeber they started promoting a fight Soto-Valero. Then the Tradegy happened.

    Just my thoughts

    Thanks
  • dan_cov
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    #2
    In a nutshell - yes he avoided those guys like the plague.

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    • 4Corners
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      #3
      Valero.....ehhhh I wouldn'y say so.

      Raheem, he should have fought him. Guzman tried for two years to fight Pac.

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      • Pocket Dogs!
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        #4
        Well, he was supposed to fight Soto after Diaz but then Floyd retired and Oscar came calling. The rest is history.

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        • -Kev-
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          #5
          Out of those 3, just Raheem.

          And he happily fought David Diaz for the WBC, while better champions/other top fighters like Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Joan Guzman were around.


          Pacquiao ducking Soto and Valero is a joke. Soto is a bus driver and Valero was green but showed how good he is against DeMarco for the first time, which he was very good and just not some power puncher with no skill. And Pacquiao vs Valero was actually getting built up by Bob Arum, while also Gamboa vs Lopez was getting built up. But you know Arum takes so long to make a damn fight happen, that a fighter literally died waiting for the fight[Valero RIP] and Lopez got his head almost knocked off twice by Salido.

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          • 4Corners
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            #6
            Raheem and Guzman were fights that should have happened.

            Also, instead of fighting Diaz, he should have fought Casamayor or Campbell, who were better than Diaz at 135.

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            • Pacroid
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              #7
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Out of those 3, just Raheem.

              And he happily fought David Diaz for the WBC, while better champions/other top fighters like Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Joan Guzman were around.


              Pacquiao ducking Soto and Valero is a joke. Soto is a bus driver and Valero was green but showed how good he is against DeMarco for the first time, which he was very good and just not some power puncher with no skill. And Pacquiao vs Valero was actually getting built up by Bob Arum, while also Gamboa vs Lopez was getting built up. But you know Arum takes so long to make a damn fight happen, that a fighter literally died waiting for the fight[Valero RIP] and Lopez got his head almost knocked off twice by Salido.
              If Soto ****s up Matthysse would you think he is not a bus driver anymore?

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              • Mister Wolf
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                #8
                add nate cambell and joel casamayor to that list

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                • dan_cov
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pacroid
                  If Soto ****s up Matthysse would you think he is not a bus driver anymore?


                  Soto actually does work as a bus driver for a living

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                  • Pacroid
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                    #10
                    Soto is a boss leaving him alone you diiicks

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