Chavez vs Martinez = Martinez vs Margarito

[Motofan]

Jr comes in with a massive size advantage. That is the only reason he has any slim chance in this fight. Sergio is better in every other way. Oh, and Margarito fights nothing like Jr, and This Sergio would **** that Margarito. You know how Jr didn't have the amateur experience a lot of guys do? Same goes for Sergio. Margarito caught him green. Jr On the other hand...

[Boxing Bob]

Mushybrain these are things that are true about Jr.

Low hands- check
consistantly off balance- not true about Jr or Martinez (more ackward,yes)
average hand speed -check
world class opposition- incomplete, Jr has never faced a world class opponent(please don't even try Andy Lee)


Dude theres a reason why team Chavez has consistantly ducked Martinez- Jr can't beat him!

Mushy, do you think the fight will really happen?

[-jose-]

you're comparing two different monsters...putting my personal feelings aside towards Margarito and speaking as a fanatic of the sport of I could say Junior wouldn't of stood a chance against Margarito...Tony wins in 8 TKO...that said they nothing alike

[mathed]

I look at the match up between Chavez and Martinez and I just keep coming back to Martinez vs Margarito. I try to rationalize how Martinez has just changed since that fight as far as the weight, experience, the margarito hand wrap factor, but it doesn't change my opinion that the chavez fight can be a similar situation if one important factor plays a role. If you go back and really look at the fight between Martinez and Margo you notice that Martinez's offense and movement was as good then as it is now. He was using the angles, the hands down, the same combinations your used to seeing from Maravilla. You think about the factors that went into Margarito getting the TKO over Martinez that day and it just makes the Chavez fight more of a toss up. In the Margarito fight Martinez wasn't hurting him. Margaro was walking him down, getting caught clean on many occasions but never seemed fazed by Martinez's punches, movement or akward style. Now people might think that a major factor in that fight was that Margarito was possibly using illegal hand wraps, and it might be so I also take that into consideration. How that translates to a chavez, martinez match up is that Chavez's weight advantage over most middleweights has allowed him to overpower them and ultimately break them down so the fact that Martinez is a small middleweight doesn't make him immune to that possibility. Now the most important factor going in to this fight will be Chavez's chin. Can it hold up? He's gotten hit with some vicious shots and hasn't been remotely shaken, but I believe Martinez will be the hardest puncher he has ever faced, not to mention he will probably get tagged often. Ultimately I think that if Martinez doesn't get Chavez's respect early or faze him with clean shots then it might be Deja Vu for him.

LMAO...comparing a rookie with 17 total fights under his belt to the guy that is knocking out some of the best fighters in the world. Sergio will keep his distance and tag the wide open Chavez with ease. Chavez is a grinder...if he can't get you up against the ropes he is toast and Martinez is an excellent technical boxer, Chavez is a wide open slug who will take tremendous punishment and Roach will probably throw in the towel for him.

[mathed]

And look......why would Arum schedule a PPV on the same night as another PPV? Any guesses? Anyone? It's so he can use that as an excuse to not make the fight and move Chavez up to 168.....jut like Ariza said last week.....read between the lines.

Dude won't take mandated drug tests, why would he man up to fight Martinez? It's easy to talk a big game when you know you are safe and protected. Sergio knows he will phuking destroy Chavez, the hyped up slug knows it too.

[hhnic718]

You mean minus the plaster of paris right? Matter of fact Chavez might be juicing so comparisons might be accurate lol!

[mushahadeen]

You mean minus the plaster of paris right? Matter of fact Chavez might be juicing so comparisons might be accurate lol!

So what? Sergio is desperate for a payday if JCC JR wants to put bricks in his gloves there isn't a damn thing Sergio can do about it.

[915angel]

So what? Sergio is desperate for a payday if JCC JR wants to put bricks in his gloves there isn't a damn thing Sergio can do about it.

this is somewhat true sergio hasnt seen a chavez pay day

[danceswithfire]

that's exactly how i see it ending up but worse for sergio.

[Light_Speed]

And look......why would Arum schedule a PPV on the same night as another PPV? Any guesses? Anyone? It's so he can use that as an excuse to not make the fight and move Chavez up to 168.....jut like Ariza said last week.....read between the lines.

Dude won't take mandated drug tests, why would he man up to fight Martinez? It's easy to talk a big game when you know you are safe and protected. Sergio knows he will phuking destroy Chavez, the hyped up slug knows it too.

I think Arum will use Sergio as a way to stick it to Golden Boy. They will do better numbers than Canelo/Ortiz, guaranteed.