Sugar Ray Robinson #1 for eternity?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    It'll be very hard.

    But it's possible.

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    • fvanesbeck
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      #12
      I don't think you can ever say for sure that no one will overtake him but it'll be very difficult considering the nature of boxing today.

      All it takes is one elite fighter with a lot of balls to start fighting more often than is normal by todays standards. Then you never know what could happen...Although PPV makes this difficult.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #13
        Originally posted by fvanesbeck
        I don't think you can ever say for sure that no one will overtake him but it'll be very difficult considering the nature of boxing today.

        All it takes is one elite fighter with a lot of balls to start fighting more often than is normal by todays standards. Then you never know what could happen...Although PPV makes this difficult.
        I agree with this. I mean right now in boxing certain fighters are excused for not fighting such & such calling it business decisions & too much risk vs reward & so forth. I don't see how a fighter excused for ducking can be greater than a past fighter that fought everyone & their momma.

        If there is to ever be a truly elite fighter that took a division by storm & beat every single opponent realistically ranked elite, I'd be genuinely surprised.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          It's not impossible at all for a modern fighter to surpass Ray Robinson. Sugar Ray Leonard is considered a top 10 ATG by many, and if a modern fighter were to do what he did, but fight an extra three or four years and add a few more good and great wins, that fighter could have an argument.

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          • DeadLikeMe
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            #15
            Perhaps some day, but nobody active right now is even close.

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            • viperz007
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              #16
              Originally posted by miron_lang
              Because the change in boxing landscape since Ray's time. We can all conclude that it is impossible for current fighters to accumulate 107 Victories with 108 KO's

              he faced so many champions because he fought many times in a year unlike today where a Champion usually fight 3 to 4 times a year.


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              So is it possible for a fighter today to accomplish something that could possible be greater than Robinson's achievements?
              not to be rude

              but how can someone win 107 fights and KTFO 108 opponents

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                I agree with this. I mean right now in boxing certain fighters are excused for not fighting such & such calling it business decisions & too much risk vs reward & so forth. I don't see how a fighter excused for ducking can be greater than a past fighter that fought everyone & their momma.

                If there is to ever be a truly elite fighter that took a division by storm & beat every single opponent realistically ranked elite, I'd be genuinely surprised.
                But Ray Robinson did that himself.

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                • [ DUBBZZ ]
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                  #18
                  GOAT means "of all time" so probably not.

                  Impossible to compare that era to this one. Completely different.

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                  • Big_L
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                    #19
                    old timers will NEVER put anybody ahead of him no matter what. it's unfair really.

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                    • Dragon_
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by miron_lang
                      107 Victories with 108 KO's

                      How is that possible?

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