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  • #61
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    It's not about being Latin...Puerto Rican...Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry that has been going on decades. They can sell that rivalry on a Mexican Independence Day weekend, against Mexico next big thing.

    There is no Mexico-Cuba rivarly, there isn't a Mexico-Colombia rivalry.

    I'm not saying I want this fight. I'm not saying it's a fight that should happen. But, I'm looking at a fight they can sell as PPV event...They can't sell Quintana but they can sell that rivalry that Mexico next big thing will participate in.



    It doesn't matter if Larga is an option or if he is considered because it go nowhere. He is not getting the fight period.

    Instead of coming up with ideas for GBP or advocating an inevitable fight with Quintana, shouldn't fans be screaming foul?

    That's what got us that crappy Mosley-Canelo fight last month.

    GBP/Top Rank give the fans whatever they want and NSB comes up with reasons it makes "business sense", like what you're doing now.

    That's apart of the problem we're in now, not the solution.

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    • #62
      Márquez fought juanma López with an injured shoulder, Margarito fought with one eye, Terrible Morales fought with one eye, edwin valero fought with a nasty gash and you could almost see his skull, etc. Pain is no problem for them. They are machos, Kirkland is making excuses. I thought Canelo wasn't that good, isn't that what people say? Well, fight him!!!!!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by garfios View Post
        Bring the fight to miami and the stadium will be packed, stop the bs that we don't support our fighters, you are the one that are scared, more than GBP and canelo, by the way molina didn't kick anyones a$$, he make the fight ugly for those that like the hugging and got hurt in the process...
        Here we go again you make a better promoter for Lara than even his own promoter.....LA LA LAND Lara got his arss whooped by Molina, thats cristal clear, only your bias and lack of objectivity personality prevents you from seeing that.....in my opinion Molina beat Lara with more clarity than Lara's victory over Williams.

        Having said that, Iwould't mind seen Lara or Molina vs Canelo both of those guys are more deserving than the rest of the 154 pounders.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by BlackRobbb View Post
          Watch Golden Fishnets feed Canelo someone like Quintana. Last I looked, Lara was anxiously standing by to fight Canelo. I'll bet my left arm Oscar doesn't let Canelo face the Cuban -- too dangerous.
          the same Lara that received a gift vs Molina??

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          • #65
            Originally posted by budfr View Post
            Márquez fought juanma López with an injured shoulder, Margarito fought with one eye, Terrible Morales fought with one eye, edwin valero fought with a nasty gash and you could almost see his skull, etc. Pain is no problem for them. They are machos, Kirkland is making excuses. I thought Canelo wasn't that good, isn't that what people say? Well, fight him!!!!!
            3 mill isen't bad insentive either.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
              It's not about being Latin...Puerto Rican...Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry that has been going on decades. They can sell that rivalry on a Mexican Independence Day weekend, against Mexico next big thing.

              There is no Mexico-Cuba rivarly, there isn't a Mexico-Colombia rivalry.

              I'm not saying I want this fight. I'm not saying it's a fight that should happen. But, I'm looking at a fight they can sell as PPV event...They can't sell Quintana but they can sell that rivalry that Mexico next big thing will participate in.



              It doesn't matter if Larga is an option or if he is considered because it go nowhere. He is not getting the fight period.
              I don't think that rivalry angle sells with past prime fighters that Puerto Ricans don't even support. The PR vs MX angle relies on Puerto Ricans also buying the the PPV. And Puerto Ricans stopped caring about Quintana a long time ago, if they ever did in the first place. And Mexicans won't neccessarly care either just because a Puerto Rican is involved. For example, the Cintron vs Canelo fight bombed in Mexico. There was only 4k in attendance when they were giving away 2 tickets for the price of 1.

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              • #67
                Somebody's scared

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                • #68
                  Laras available, come on now

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    Instead of coming up with ideas for GBP or advocating an inevitable fight with Quintana, shouldn't fans be screaming foul?

                    That's what got us that crappy Mosley-Canelo fight last month.

                    GBP/Top Rank give the fans whatever they want and NSB comes up with reasons it makes "business sense", like what you're doing now.

                    That's apart of the problem we're in now, not the solution.
                    You act like I'm OK with such fight...Obviously you're not understanding what I'm saying.

                    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                    I don't think that rivalry angle sells with past prime fighters that Puerto Ricans don't even support. The PR vs MX angle relies on Puerto Ricans also buying the the PPV. And Puerto Ricans stopped caring about Quintana a long time ago, if they ever did in the first place. And Mexicans won't neccessarly care either just because a Puerto Rican is involved. For example, the Cintron vs Canelo fight bombed in Mexico. There was only 4k in attendance when they were giving away 2 tickets for the price of 1.
                    Cintron was coming off a lackluster performance and Canelo hadn't beaten someone like Moley as shot he maybe. Still a name that people saw on the biggest PPV of the year. Same card Quintana scored a KO. It can sell...All they need to do is sell like around 250k to make a profit. 300k+ will be impressive...When I'm talking about what sells. I'm not talking about a Cotto like numbers. He will not do that Cotto like numbers no matter who he fights unless it's Cotto.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by budfr View Post
                      Márquez fought juanma López with an injured shoulder, Margarito fought with one eye, Terrible Morales fought with one eye, edwin valero fought with a nasty gash and you could almost see his skull, etc. Pain is no problem for them. They are machos, Kirkland is making excuses. I thought Canelo wasn't that good, isn't that what people say? Well, fight him!!!!!
                      And why not fight Vanes or Lara with two? After all they are #1 and #3...

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