due 2 IBF rules khan was only allowed to gain 10lbs after weighing in, did this take

[JAB5239]

chavez jr put on over 20 lbs for his last fight and only the IBF have that rule if im not mistaken? peterson put on 14 or 15 lbs because he diddn't have to go by the IBF rules but if the rematch happened he would have been affected alot especially as he would be 5lbs lighter and he would lose significant strength

Thats why same day weigh ins across the board makes the most sense, it keeps fighters closest to their natural weight class. The way thing are set now, even with the IBF rule, one fighter can gain a significant advantage on the other. Why not level the entire playing field?

[Shogun99]

chavez jr put on over 20 lbs for his last fight and only the IBF have that rule if im not mistaken? peterson put on 14 or 15 lbs because he diddn't have to go by the IBF rules but if the rematch happened he would have been affected alot especially as he would be 5lbs lighter and he would lose significant strength

I don't get why the rehydration clause didn't apply to Pete since he was an ibf mandatory fighting for an Ibf title. I remember khan had to abide by the rehydration clause when he fought Judah even though Zab was the defending ibf champion. Why was Peterson excused vs Khan but not Khan when challenged Zab?

[DLT]

..away some strength and power and in his recent training pix he looks like he did around the time he fought st clair where he looked alot stronger and powerful, this might benefit him for the garcia fight.

Thats not true. Someone made a thread about this awhile back. Its not true. The 10lb rule is for both fighters but its only for the next morning weigh-in. Everyone has the official weigh-in on Friday.

The rule is then that you are now allowed to gain more than 10lbs before the Saturday "morning" weigh-in. After that you can put on how much weight you want.

You can still add weight the rest of the day. Most guys dont gain more than 10 by early the next morning anyways. Peterson also was within the 10lb limit by that morning weigh-in

[JAB5239]

Thats not true. Someone made a thread about this awhile back. Its not true. The 10lb rule is for both fighters but its only for the next morning weigh-in. Everyone has the official weigh-in on Friday.

The rule is then that you are now allowed to gain more than 10lbs before the Saturday "morning" weigh-in. After that you can put on how much weight you want.

You can still add weight the rest of the day. Most guys dont gain more than 10 by early the next morning anyways. Peterson also was within the 10lb limit by that morning weigh-in

In other words the rule does nothing to enforce a fair fight. One gut can be moving up because he's outgrown a division and another guy can drain himself down two divisions with time to get back to that actual weight. Its ridiculous and just another way for the ABC orgs to collect sanctioning fee's from all these weight classes that have watered down the sport.

[DLT]

In other words the rule does nothing to enforce a fair fight. One gut can be moving up because he's outgrown a division and another guy can drain himself down two divisions with time to get back to that actual weight. Its ridiculous and just another way for the ABC orgs to collect sanctioning fee's from all these weight classes that have watered down the sport.

I dont get what youre saying here. The rule was actually applied for safety and I think another sanctioning body has also just adopted it. Are you still thinking its for one fighter? They both have to abide by it

[JAB5239]

I dont get what youre saying here. The rule was actually applied for safety and I think another sanctioning body has also just adopted it. Are you still thinking its for one fighter? They both have to abide by it

The problem is it lessens one danger (dehydration) while heightening another (fighters coming in 2 and 3 weight classes over the limit). And no, I understand the rule for both the IBF and what the WBC has adopted. Neither prevent a fighter from being 2 and sometimes three weight classes above the title they're defending come fight time. In other words you've lessened the danger for the guy who doesn't naturally belong in a division (take JCC jr for example) and raised it for the guy who naturally does. Bring back same day weigh ins and it makes things fair for everyone. If a fighter puts himself in danger its by his own hand, not a rule that allows his opponent to blow up 10, 15 or more pounds over the weight limit and title they're supposed to be representing.

[DLT]

The problem is it lessens one danger (dehydration) while heightening another (fighters coming in 2 and 3 weight classes over the limit). And no, I understand the rule for both the IBF and what the WBC has adopted. Neither prevent a fighter from being 2 and sometimes three weight classes above the title they're defending come fight time. In other words you've lessened the danger for the guy who doesn't naturally belong in a division (take JCC jr for example) and raised it for the guy who naturally does. Bring back same day weigh ins and it makes things fair for everyone. If a fighter puts himself in danger its by his own hand, not a rule that allows his opponent to blow up 10, 15 or more pounds over the weight limit and title they're supposed to be representing.

well that is something I agree with. I always have. I think that is a different argument though. Its not like it was already same day weigh-in and then the IBF changed it to make it 10 pounds the next morning. Most have no weight limit and some fighters maybe 15 pounds bigger the next morning. In actualality its not a huge difference but atleast its a lil something in terms of helping safety from what its been recently.

As to what youre speaking about, I definitely agree. Its long overdue. We definitely still have size advantages even with the weight class. Some do aruge though that it wont help as much as people think and that guys will still try to lose weigh to get in smaller classes and that it will actually cause more danger.

With same day weigh-in, no one comes close to beating Floyd & Pac......lol

[JAB5239]

well that is something I agree with. I always have. I think that is a different argument though. Its not like it was already same day weigh-in and then the IBF changed it to make it 10 pounds the next morning. Most have no weight limit and some fighters maybe 15 pounds bigger the next morning. In actualality its not a huge difference but atleast its a lil something in terms of helping safety from what its been recently.

As to what youre speaking about, I definitely agree. Its long overdue. We definitely still have size advantages even with the weight class. Some do aruge though that it wont help as much as people think and that guys will still try to lose weigh to get in smaller classes and that it will actually cause more danger.

With same day weigh-in, no one comes close to beating Floyd & Pac......lol

There is no doubt guys will still try and cut the weight to gain unfair advantages....there will always be something. But one fighter wouldn't be getting hurt by another because of loopholes in the rules. If the commissions and orgs cared about the sport instead of lining their pockets they could go back to same day weigh ins and still have someone monitor a fighters weight loss leading up to a fight. We all know this wont happen though because it would be detrimental to them getting their sanctioning fee's.

And yes, no one would come close to Manny and Floyd.

[gaz26]

yeah i definitely think weigh in's should be before the fight by no more than a few hours, i can't believe how much chavez jr puts on ( 20 lbs +) but Khan looks alot stronger now i just hope he doesn't think he can stand and trade...if he boxes he will have an easy night, if he tries to fight he may get stopped tho i wasn't impressed with garcia vs morales...should be a gr8 fight

[Jadon]

well that is something I agree with. I always have. I think that is a different argument though. Its not like it was already same day weigh-in and then the IBF changed it to make it 10 pounds the next morning. Most have no weight limit and some fighters maybe 15 pounds bigger the next morning. In actualality its not a huge difference but atleast its a lil something in terms of helping safety from what its been recently.

As to what youre speaking about, I definitely agree. Its long overdue. We definitely still have size advantages even with the weight class. Some do aruge though that it wont help as much as people think and that guys will still try to lose weigh to get in smaller classes and that it will actually cause more danger.

With same day weigh-in, no one comes close to beating Floyd & Pac......lol

Braldey just owned Pac 9-3 so what you talking about.