Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

[The Tase]

the fact is you are the only one that views this as a debate....I DONT

their is no debate that publications award athletes based off their OPINION

there is no debate you use their opinion in his case to validate your own

So you believe every broadcaster is knowledgeable about the sport? most of them only are casual fans themselves and didnt start watching fights until they got a job in the field

So their opinion means more than people who have participated and analyzed the sport their whole life's or since child hood because they collect a pay check to give their opinion? NO their is no debate

i agree. there is no debate.

Go enjoy your bizzaro fantasy world where you award & recognize athletes based on your opinion.

Ill stick with reality.

[therealpugilist]

i agree. there is no debate.

Go enjoy your bizzaro fantasy world where you award & recognize athletes based on your opinion.

Ill stick with reality.

you do that Ok...because you said it yourself you dont agree with every award, awarded.....some bizzaro fantasy huh

[The Big Dunn]

Elaborate more please.

Duran was labeled a quitter. Many people started to reevaluate his lagacy. The Moore fight in the Garden was setup for Moore to get a big win against what people thought was an aging veteran. DUran was a significant undrdog if memory serves me correctly.

Duran came up big, destroyed Moore, and put to rest everything negative said about him relative to quitting etc.

But if you look at Moores record, he was only 14-0 or something like that. If thats all you know, you don't know how big a win this was.

[Brother Jay]

because its pure BS & floyd agenda driven. YOu aint fooling anybody here.

& rehydration clauses?

That's why its not really worth responding to.

Its like president ***** trying to talk sense to orly taitz.

Oh because you say it is?

Let's put it into a more simple format for your simple mind.

1 - Manny has padded his record with 40 fights and he only has 59.

2 - Manny campaign above 135lbs lacks any real substance whatsoever as it pertains to legacy and value.

3 - Manny can only be compared to other greats of boxing's past and present IF AND ONLY IF one includes his campaign at WW and jrMW. If you take those farces away, Manny's entire legacy is predicated on his wins over Barrera and Morales. And most acknowledge that Pacquiao's WW and jrMW campaigns are marred by catchweights, rehydration clauses, winning one single title at a WW in a catchweight bout and winning one single jrMW vacant title against a cheater who was still banned at the time of the fight.

I'm putting you to all your chips. Maybe you can address those three points that you claim are baseless. Maybe not. But if not, it'll just be another check that your asss couldn't cash and you will have confirmed that you're just another loud mouth.

PS Even ***** produced the long form of his birth certificate because he's a man about his shit. He doesn't have to pretend to have integrity like you clearly do.

[Roman Moreno]

Duran was labeled a quitter. Many people started to reevaluate his lagacy. The Moore fight in the Garden was setup for Moore to get a big win against what people thought was an aging veteran. DUran was a significant undrdog if memory serves me correctly.

Duran came up big, destroyed Moore, and put to rest everything negative said about him relative to quitting etc.

But if you look at Moores record, he was only 14-0 or something like that. If thats all you know, you don't know how big a win this was.

But, that win isn't bigger or more significant than the Leonard win nor the DeJesus wins or the Buchanan win nor that of the Barkley win..

Hell for me personally Castro win cuz of how far gone Duran was and it being at SMW over teh Moore win.

I also like the win over Marcel than the win over Moore.

[LoadedWraps]

Oh because you say it is?

Let's put it into a more simple format for your simple mind.

1 - Manny has padded his record with 40 fights and he only has 59.

2 - Manny campaign above 135lbs lacks any real substance whatsoever as it pertains to legacy and value.

3 - Manny can only be compared to other greats of boxing's past and present IF AND ONLY IF one includes his campaign at WW and jrMW. If you take those farces away, Manny's entire legacy is predicated on his wins over Barrera and Morales. And most acknowledge that Pacquiao's WW and jrMW campaigns are marred by catchweights, rehydration clauses, winning one single title at a WW in a catchweight bout and winning one single jrMW vacant title against a cheater who was still banned at the time of the fight.

I'm putting you to all your chips. Maybe you can address those three points that you claim are baseless. Maybe not. But if not, it'll just be another check that your asss couldn't cash and you will have confirmed that you're just another loud mouth.

PS Even ***** produced the long form of his birth certificate because he's a man about his shit. He doesn't have to pretend to have integrity like you clearly do.

Great post! Tell it like it is Brother Jay! They can't handle the truth!

[Roman Moreno]

Which Pac fight had a rehydration clause?

But, tell it like it is cuz' they can't handle the truth

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Which Pac fight had a rehydration clause?

But, tell it like it is cuz' they can't handle the truth

ask him to post a link where PAC got a ********** pregnant...

[bojangles1987]

Pacquiao and rehydration clauses is definitely one of the biggest lies in recent memory.

[Brother Jay]

Which Pac fight had a rehydration clause?

But, tell it like it is cuz' they can't handle the truth

Its definitely speculation, but there's no way in hell Oscar DelaHoya came in at 145lbs to fight Pacquiao because he thought he'd have the advantage.

Real boxing fans know that boxers come to win UNLESS there is something else at play.

Now I'm not saying that DLH fought a fixed fight. I am saying that anyone with half a brain would realize that no one is going to put themselves at a disadvantage when millions are on the line.

DLH did just that.

Now make sense out of that or can't you handle the truth?