Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

[Roman Moreno]

No idea. It just doesn't give him any type of edge coming in at 147 a weight he hadn't made in years. Makes no sense.

His walking weight was at the 140's weeks before the fight.

How much weight do Floyd and Pac put over night?

[Roman Moreno]

SMH. Come to think of it though, there was a weight penalty fee. Then again, Oscar had the power to say kiss my a** if he wanted. He obviously wasn't concerned.

He had no fear of coming over the 147 limit. He knew that would have taken away whatever credibility that cherry pick fight had left. So he wasn't concern with such weight penalty clause..

But, a rehydration clause? Oscar? GTFOH anyone who wants to believe that crap.

He cherry picked Pac to duck Margarito. Fucked up his weight, and what happened was one of the greatest night in boxing history.

[fabie]

The fact that Pac haters set up camp here, when they have been exposed as haters yet cant leave as they are butt hurt is evidence to how great Pac is and that the reverence Pac gets needs to be moderated by haters.

I mean hes fought everyone in the last 7 years beating everyone spectacularly, hasnt even touched the canvas and fighting regularly, yet he is is overated? What does he have to do then against the opponents he has fought? Only JMM has given him any troubles and even though its 3 fights, it is only one man.

Why dont haters just leave with dignity and show some class?

It's called DENIAL for the haters....

[SBleeder]

Tyson is far more overrated.

[tranquilo]

Oscar would have whooped Pacquiao in his prime

[Roman Moreno]

Oscar would have whooped Pacquiao in his prime

Maybe....I give Pac a hell of a shot against a prime Oscar. Pac is a sucker for the right hand, however, Oscar didn't have that weapon in his arsenal. Oscar counter punching, combination, and boxing IQ isn't on the level of JMM either. I think Pac volume punching, stamina, speed, unorthodox, and southpaw stance would have seriously troubled Oscar. Don't think Oscar left hook would land frequently on Pac cuz' of Pac stance, and Oscar had trouble with southpaws. Plus Pac had great success with left handed dominate fighters who fight right handed.

The 2nd half of that fight would have been interesting.

[Reloaded]

It's called DENIAL for the haters....

Its called ****ing your head on a wall , you fanboys are presented with boxing FACT day after day and you ignore it and quote hype day after day ,

Its really a case of you cannot educate a foolish fanboy because the fanboys cant comprehend between the fact from the fantasy , add to that most are children with under developed reasoning powers and then you have a fanbase that think Manny is the GOAT , thats where Manny is a hype job , great fighter but being where his teenage fans place him , a hype job !

[hugh grant]

Maybe....I give Pac a hell of a shot against a prime Oscar. Pac is a sucker for the right hand, however, Oscar didn't have that weapon in his arsenal. Oscar counter punching, combination, and boxing IQ isn't on the level of JMM either. I think Pac volume punching, stamina, speed, unorthodox, and southpaw stance would have seriously troubled Oscar. Don't think Oscar left hook would land frequently on Pac cuz' of Pac stance, and Oscar had trouble with southpaws. Plus Pac had great success with left handed dominate fighters who fight right handed.

The 2nd half of that fight would have been interesting.

Thats not the way to view it and thats a bit of an understatement to say the least. I think the way people should see these things is as Pac gave DLH such a beatdown, in respect for DLH we should assume if he was at his best (assuming he wasnt on the night he fought Pac)
we should give DLH respect and accept he could have done better against Pac, of course still losing though.
We should accept the possiblity DLH in his prime at his absolute best he would have tested Pac much, much better.

we cant assume DLH was so far gone when you get old guys like BH and JC, thats just making excuses for DLH and not giving Pac credit for what he can do and maybe he made DLH perform like that. DLH has often struggled with big names he fought, and he would have most likely struggled with some of Pacs opponents. Of course people age at different rates, but we cant assume DLH went from 10 in ability to 3 overnight.

[therealpugilist]

Thats a bit of an understatement. I think the way people should see these things is as Pac gave DLH such a beatdown, in respect for DLH we should assume if he was at his best (assuming he wasnt on the night he fought Pac)
we should give DLH respect and accept he could have done better against Pac, of course still losing though.
We should accept the possiblity DLH in his prime at his absolute best he would have tested Pac much, much better.

We cant assume DLH was so far gone when you get old guys like BH and JC, thats just making excuses for DLH and not giving Pac credit for what he can do and maybe he made DLH perform like that. Of course people age at different rates, but we cant assume DLH went from 10 in ability to 3 overnight.

we all know every person ages different...for every bernard hopkins there is 100 or more fighters that are washed up by the time they are 30 or older
he was a far cry from the guy he was in 1997-2001

He gets credit for the win, but given the circumstances its not some amazing feat like some make it out to be..it was nothing more than a good win..he beat a larger man with a big name, but one who hadnt looked impressive in years and at a weight he hadnt fought at in almost a decade

its not always who you beat but when you beat them....Exactly why Frazier beating Ali in the first fight is more impressive than the one Berbick and Holmes beat.....same person but two different fighters

[hugh grant]

He gets credit for the win, but given the circumstances its not some amazing feat like some make it out to be..it was nothing more than a good win..he beat a larger man with a big name, but one who hadnt looked impressive in years and at a weight he hadnt fought at in almost a decade

its not always who you beat but when you beat them....Exactly why Frazier beating Ali in the first fight is more impressive than the one Berbick and Holmes beat.....same person but two different fighters

I agree, but i have seen nothing of DLH to suggest he wouldnt lose to Pac in his prime.

But of course i believe DLH could have done better against Pac had it been years earlier, but he got such a beatdown its unfair to Pac to say Pac might have beat DLH in DLHs prime and taking the mickey.
On the other hand if you said in DLHs prime he would have done better and even beat Pac then that is acceptable approach at looking at it.