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Originally posted by kapersky
And as far as why Tyson wouldn't admit to the crime...I have no idea, nor would ever I want to have any idea in understanding what goes on in that ****ed-up mind of his.
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Kapersky, I don't have any links to provide for you, but I can recommend those two books that I mentioned earlier ('Down for the Count' and 'Release of Power'). I'm sure you have a library card, so if you are interested in reading hundreds of pages on the trial and the specifics surrounding it, head over to your local library...If your library doesn't have either/both in stock at that very moment, they SHOULD be able to find a copy for you to read for the very near future (I've often had to wait about a week for them to honour my requests for certain books...not too long).
And as far as why Tyson wouldn't admit to the crime...I have no idea, nor would ever I want to have any idea in understanding what goes on in that ****ed-up mind of his. -
Did Tyson **** Desiree?
Only Desiree knows and only Tyson knows. I truly believe He didn't because the man could of had any girl he wanted. He wasn't sick, and derranged like the media paints him out to be.
Of course money rubbed him the wrong way but He wasn't just some sick monster.Comment
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Tyson didn't need the media to paint him that way, as Mike's own lawyer (from what he said during the trial), own and first biographer, his closest companion after Cus' death (Jimmy Jacobs), and even Tyson himself (from what he said during the trial), all spoke very openly about Mike and his sexual "troubles" with woman.Originally posted by TuPrincipeComment
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It was a ****ing setup!
Not that I wish Tyson did **** her now...but he got sentenced for
bull****, it has been almost 15 years or more since that case and
tyson from day one until now, says he didnt **** her. who admits
something if it is a lie for more than 15 years? certainly not someone with the personality of tyson.
Yogi, look dude ive been through this with you and im not giving up unless i convince you about this issue!
Now im going to say the same thing in the other thread because i
done have much time at the moment.
I don't know for sure what did or didn't happened between Tyson and Desiree Washington who claims that he ****d her, no one does. But,I can tell you that a Black female who has been a cheerleader ever since she was a teenager and having thus been around plenty of athletes of *whatever* color, for years and years almost *all* her teenage and adult life, wouldn't for a **millisecond** believe that an *athlete* (particularly one with Tyson's reputation)in a major high school, college, or professional sport was going to invite her up his hotel room for *merely* an autograph (which he could have given in the hotel lobby). So, WHY did the young cheerleader woman go up to his room? That's not to say that the cheerleader would deserve to be ****d, if it happened; but it does strongly suggest that Tyson had been set up (and certainly not every rich professional athlete that has been accused of **** has *NOT* been found to have been set up), as he had been, caught offguard, by another women, like his former wife actress Robin Givens, in a different way, in his life.
You can bet that if Tyson had been an ordinary Black guy instead
of a high profile, rich Black athlete -- and his accuser was an
ordinary Black woman, no one, not the police, not the press,
not the judge, and not most people would have really cared
or taken it that seriously -- especially where the objective evidence was lacking or totally not clear -- that he was accused of ****. In Tyson's case, the judge and jury essentially just took the woman's word for it.
Lets give Tyson some emotional room to grow and
experience something besides controversy and/or hate or being
used everytime in his life.Comment
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No one forces Tyson to bite people, try to break their arms, brawl like a fool with Lewis at the press conference...etc...Originally posted by The_Greatest
He acts like a ****ing kid, he creates his own controversy, and im sure he's been taken advantage of...but that was a long long time ago. Alot of people have, but they still have dignity.
He has blown millions of ****** **** like pet tigers!! lol
He gets no sympathy from me. Time to act like a ****ing man.Comment
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LOL!Originally posted by The_Greatest
Come on, Greatest...you ain't going to convince me with that pile of rubble that you just posted (I've already dealt with the only things worthwhile in that during our last conversation about this), which is mainly based on assumption based theories. If you want to convince me, which is going to be VERY hard to do because I've read a ton on this subject, talk about the specifics of the case and ONLY the specifics of the case. Now if you can do that...Bring it on!
Hey, we all know that the courts don't decide cases on assumptions, theories, or wishful thinking. They only decide cases on the facts presented!Comment
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i think tyson was used in a scheme and there was a plot to try and cash in on him. personally i think the whole thing was a set up and that tyson had consensual sex with her, but maybe it was a little rough so she called it ****.
first off i think **** is one of the most horrific crime that one can commit. but i don't think tyson ****d her, i think that she and someone else were trying to cash in on tyson.
women do **** like that all the time, as a man you have to be careful, because if a girl says that you ****d her, you ****d her. that's how everyone will see it, the law, the public, co-workers, sometimes friends and family.
no one knows that wasn't there, unless it's completely clear that she was beat up and forced. science and doctors tests can now determine what actually happend, physically....
but thats the scary thing about being a man, you could be out with a girl and have a great time, you could be having drinks and laughing it up all night, you get her back to where ever and have drunken consensual sex. the girl wakes up the next morning and regrets her choice and feels taken advantage of because she was drunk and says that she was ****d. now what, if it's you, your ****ed. if it's your friend he's ****ed. it happends more then people think, or even realise.
girls and or people for that matter seem to seek out the rich and famous. they are always trying to cash in.and i think tyson was a victim of that.
look at kobe, he boned that broad, he fessed up to having sex with her, but it was consensual and she cried ****. just another golddigger trying to cash in, not worried about anyone elses life.
tyson could've ****d her, i really don't know, and the thing is, niether does anyone else know the truth for that matter. only those two...
also where is desiree now? i'm sure she's living the good life as we speak, thanks to mike......Comment
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also to boot, she cried ****d before too. falsely accusing a guy that she was with in high school.....http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...83/ai_13610075
it's unimportant and old news but it backs up what i was saying before, girls do things like that, not all but there are some out there that really do......Comment
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after the trial ended, weren't there evidence that Desiree and her mother lied in court?Comment
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Are you aware that Desiree's father was a very strict & very violent man, who had continiously physically assaulted both Desiree and especially her mother (which were confirmed by a number of police reports iun regards to his violence against both)? She thought that guy had gotten her pregnant, and as a way of avoiding her father's violent wrath...Hey, I could bring up Tyson's past, as well;Originally posted by deuce_drop
"He(Tyson) was continually getting into trouble with girls, stories that were stifled by people protecting him and the millions of dollars he promised to earn with his brutal fists. Hush money was paid to keep girls - and at least one mother - quiet."
"Erinn Crosby, 25-year-old daughter of Bill Crosby, revealed on a television show that Tyson had agreed to undergo psychotherapy three years earlier. This was at the urging of Bill Cosby after his daughter had told her parents that he had tried to sexually assault her."
"Jim Jacobs was talking soon after shelling out several thousand dollars to buy the silence of a mother in Catskill who had complained to him that Tyson had sexually assaulted her teenage daughter."
"Another little publicized incident led to Tyson breaking with his then trainer Teddy Atlas, who had looked after him from his earliest amateur days. It was reported to Atlas that Tyson, then a 16 year-old unknown, had sexually abused a 12 year-old girl."
"31 December 1988: Tyson's year ends with the sort of confusion and controversy that has marked it from day one. Not one but two women have come forward to accuse him of sexual harassment on the same night at a night club in Manhattan (the two women are named Sandra Miller & Lori Davis)."
"This time, there was no Jim Jacobs or Cus D'Amato to get him off the hook, as had been the case with previous sex-driven incidents."
"Jim Jacobs had confided to us that he had once paid the family of a girl alleging uninvited sex with Tyson several thousand dollars to hush everything up."
"And then he (Tyson's lawyer, Vince Fuller) depicted him (Tyson) as a notorious sexual predator."
"Phyllis Polaner, former aid of Givens, announces on 17 August (1990) that she is suing Tyson for alleged sexual assault and harassment."
****, that was just but a few of the numerous mentions of Tyson's past sexual "troubles", and that was from only one book (and I scimmed over it, with no doubt having missed some worthwhile mentions).Comment
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