Roy Jones Jr. Vs Sugar Ray Robinson

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  • bojangles1987
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    #21
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    If you want to be fair you need to bring the weight down to 160 because Robinson was a natural welterweight. That means he was about the same size as a big 140 lb. fighter of today because He had no problems making 147 the day of the fight. He might have been the best welterweight of all time but not the best middleweight of all time in my opinion. Roy Jones was a much bigger man. Jones was faster and hit harder than Robinson. Robinson came to fight so Jones would KO him in my opinion. Robinson lost middleweight tittle fights to Gene Fulmer, Basillo, a welterweight, who spotted him 6 lbs., Paul Pender, and Randy Turpin. I have seen plenty of films of Robinson and consider him somewhat overrated. He had flaws. Over the years the oldtimers have firmly established him as the greatest PFP that ever lived and you are not supposed to question this. At welterweight maybe, but not at middleweight. Not to me. If those other guys could beat him Jones would beat him because he was alot better than any of them. I know Robinson beat Fulmer, Basillo, and Turpin in rematches but Jones would not have lost to them even once.
    Robinson was plenty great enough at 160 to make this a really intriguing question. Matching Robinson against damn near anyone at 147 would probably be a mismatch in most people's eyes.

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      #22
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      If you want to be fair you need to bring the weight down to 160 because Robinson was a natural welterweight. That means he was about the same size as a big 140 lb. fighter of today because He had no problems making 147 the day of the fight. He might have been the best welterweight of all time but not the best middleweight of all time in my opinion. Roy Jones was a much bigger man. Jones was faster and hit harder than Robinson. Robinson came to fight so Jones would KO him in my opinion. Robinson lost middleweight tittle fights to Gene Fulmer, Basillo, a welterweight, who spotted him 6 lbs., Paul Pender, and Randy Turpin. I have seen plenty of films of Robinson and consider him somewhat overrated. He had flaws. Over the years the oldtimers have firmly established him as the greatest PFP that ever lived and you are not supposed to question this. At welterweight maybe, but not at middleweight. Not to me. If those other guys could beat him Jones would beat him because he was alot better than any of them. I know Robinson beat Fulmer, Basillo, and Turpin in rematches but Jones would not have lost to them even once.
      Some cat just posted Robinson had 0 flaws with his hilarious.dude swung wide as hell and his defense was transparent.he was a great fighter but people act like he is unbeatable even thou he lost 19 damn times.......sure i know he won 90 plus fights in a row and was 120-1 at one time which is amazing but he certainly isnt flawless or unbeatable

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        #23
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        Robinson was plenty great enough at 160 to make this a really intriguing question. Matching Robinson against damn near anyone at 147 would probably be a mismatch in most people's eyes.
        I'd love to see him and Hearns at 147

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          #24
          Originally posted by larryx2013
          I'd love to see him and Hearns at 147
          Agreed. Robinson's left hook probably ends that fight, but Hearns is one of those guys that arguably cannot be outboxed.

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            #25
            Originally posted by larryx2013
            Some cat just posted Robinson had 0 flaws with his hilarious.dude swung wide as hell and his defense was transparent.he was a great fighter but people act like he is unbeatable even thou he lost 19 damn times.......sure i know he won 90 plus fights in a row and was 120-1 at one time which is amazing but he certainly isnt flawless or unbeatable
            Like Gavilan?

            You still think he's unskilled? With his "wild ass punches"?

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              #26
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              Agreed. Robinson's left hook probably ends that fight, but Hearns is one of those guys that arguably cannot be outboxed.
              That would be one hell of a fight i'll tell you that it definitely aint going the distance

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                #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Like Gavilan?

                You still think he's unskilled? With his "wild ass punches"?

                you heard me the first damn time i said it

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                  #28
                  Where can I find sugar ray robinson footage? There's only clips and highlights on youtube.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by larryx2013
                    you heard me the first damn time i said it


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                    • MRBOOMER
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Paclan
                      Where can I find sugar ray robinson footage? There's only clips and highlights on youtube.
                      It's everywhere lol hell

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