would chavez have beat tszyu in his prime?

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  • oldgringo
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    #21
    Originally posted by dizo101
    agree, tszyu was way more powerfull and a better boxer

    Tszyu had a great straight right hand. Chavez is a heavier puncher overall however...and he retained his punch very late into fights.

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    • machotime
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      #22
      Kostya has some power, JCC has a great chin and good movement. His specialty though was picking out effective punches. He would take Kostya out within 9 in his prime. Picking him apart with many, many body shots.

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      • druth
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        #23
        I guess it all depends on whether or not Tszyu moved around, something he didn't do frequently, but did very well when he wanted to. Good lateral movement and use of angles sets up that right hand that could put alot of middleweights down.

        Like I said earlier, JCC would wear Tszyu down, but that dpeends on if Kosta uses his feet or not. Great fight, lots of action and I'm sure someone would bleed!

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        • mic573
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          #24
          Tszyu would be competitive but he wouldn't be able to keep Chavez off of him. Chavez was very strong at 140 as well and he was also a very heavy puncher. Chavez was not only hard to hurt but in his prime he rarely got busted up even when taken punches but he consistently hurt and busted his opponents up.

          Chavez breaks down Tszyu's body, punishes him and stops him late.

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          • LuKahnLi
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            #25
            Originally posted by dino
            when chavez fought tszyu..he was almost 39...but me personally i dont think he would have beaten tszyu at any point in his career..who agrees?
            Uh no. Chavez was way too intense for Tszyu. Tszyu would not have been able to fight at the pace he likes.

            He would essentially be in with a faster, stronger, harder punching and tougher version of Ricky Hatton. Such a fighter Tszyu would not beat at any stage of his career.

            Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton won for the exact same reasons. Their strategies were the same.

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            • blockhead
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              #26
              Originally posted by JUYJUY
              Yes.......
              ****** ****** ******. no ****ing way juyjuy. go back to sniffing eubanks balls and try not to make an ass of your self.
              prime chavez beats a whole lot of the best fighters around today including kt and hatton.
              hatton better than chavez. please. that is one of the worst cases of ethnocentrism i have seen on boxing scene and there are a lot of them.

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              • CHICO_4LIFE
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                #27
                it wouldnt of mattered.. kosta would have knocked him out in his prime exactly the way he did in 2000

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                • TuPrincipe
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                  #28
                  Tough call.

                  I think anyone that would give Kosta space to land his right hand would lose. He was just that good and his old-school style most guys just couldn't figure out.

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                  • NAB
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by baya
                    i have to respectfully disagree - i've seen most if not all of jcc's fights and pretty much followed tzuyu since the ams - at no point in his life was he on jcc's level - well - he was the better boxer but he'd a slugged it out w/ jcc and payed dearly for it.
                    There are a couple of guys who fought both Tszyu & Chavez.
                    1) Juan LaPorte - said that Tszyu's left rip was the hardest punch he ever took. Harder than any Chavez body punch. This surprised me - not that the punch was that hard, but that he didn't say Tszyu's straight right was the hardest punch.

                    2) Sammy Fuentes - Went 10 with Chavez, went 55 seconds with Tszyu. This was before Fuentes won the WBO title, so he wasn't washed up.

                    There are a few others, with most pointing to Tszyu hitting harder.

                    I think Tszyu would have to box to win this one, but I still think he would catch a prime Chavez & sit him down. This would be a big influence on Chavez for the rest of the fight.

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                    • oldgringo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NAB
                      There are a couple of guys who fought both Tszyu & Chavez.
                      1) Juan LaPorte - said that Tszyu's left rip was the hardest punch he ever took. Harder than any Chavez body punch. This surprised me - not that the punch was that hard, but that he didn't say Tszyu's straight right was the hardest punch.

                      2) Sammy Fuentes - Went 10 with Chavez, went 55 seconds with Tszyu. This was before Fuentes won the WBO title, so he wasn't washed up.

                      There are a few others, with most pointing to Tszyu hitting harder.

                      I think Tszyu would have to box to win this one, but I still think he would catch a prime Chavez & sit him down. This would be a big influence on Chavez for the rest of the fight.
                      How many people put a PRIME Chavez on his butt? Also, have you heard of Edwin Rosario and/or did you know anything of his punching power? These are sincere questions.

                      I think Tszyu's concentrated power shots were harder than JCC's, but JCC's overall punching was heavier than was Tszyu's.

                      It's really a simple matter of JCC being a scarier version of Hatton with a more refined style. Tszyu didn't exactly have the most solid chin and Chavez' chin was iron-cast.

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