2005 Boxing Awards

[oldgringo]

SLW humor me, did you think Hopkins won the 12th?

[Manny_P]

Shouldn't "cheater of the year" go to Diego Corrales for spitting out his mouthpiece twice and getting 40 extra seconds to recover?

no it goes to Castillo cuz he came in 2 lbs ova the weight limit and had the EARLY advantage of the fight.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

SLW humor me, did you think Hopkins won the 12th?

Of course I did. Did you suspect otherwise?

[oldgringo]

Of course I did. Did you suspect otherwise?

I actually didn't know. You usually seem to be a, "well that's the way things are" kind of guy so I'm surprised that you're lobbying against the fact that Hopkins was jobbed in the 12th round.

At the time, Hopkins was in line to retain his belts in the 12th round if proper scoring took place. That's the way things were, but a very NOTABLE error was made when Ford scored it incorrectly. None of the earlier rounds were so distincly clear rounds for Taylor in the same way that the 12th round was a clear round for Hopkins.

The only reason that fight was a screwjob was because of a blatant error made by ONE judge in the 12th round...nothing more, nothing less. The overall fight itself was close.

[CHICO_4LIFE]

Fighter of The Year: jermaine taylor

Top Prospect: andre ward

Fight of The Year: Corrales vs Castillo 1

Knockout of the Year: castillo's ko of corrales

Biggest Upset: raheem over morales

Screwjob of The Year: every1 who says hopkins won the 2nd taylor fight

Best is Yet to Come: jeff lacy

Worst Fight of The Year: hopkins / taylor 2

Comeback of The Year: james toney (since injury)

Cheater of The Year: Jose Juis Castillo & his trainer

Best Event of The Year: mundine / green fight being set for next year.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

The only thing I'm lobbying vs is ppl who claim that the 12th decided the fight, because it did not. No round is any more important than any other round.

[oldgringo]

The only thing I'm lobbying vs is ppl who claim that the 12th decided the fight, because it did not. No round is any more important than any other round.

Now you're just denying fact.

The 12th round is scored correctly for Hopkins and the fight is a draw.

I think the 12th pretty much decided the fight, hence the controversy.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Now you're just denying fact.

The 12th round is scored correctly for Hopkins and the fight is a draw.

I think the 12th pretty much decided the fight, hence the controversy.

You're wrong, period, end of story. Like I said, the 3rd or 4th, whichever it was, belonged to Taylor. You can harp on one round all you want, and it doesn't make a difference. In a 10 point system, all rounds are equal.

Taylor deserved an early round or TWO he didn't get, and Hops deserved 12. This isn't complicated.

[oldgringo]

You're wrong, period, end of story. Like I said, the 3rd or 4th, whichever it was, belonged to Taylor. You can harp on one round all you want, and it doesn't make a difference. In a 10 point system, all rounds are equal.

Taylor deserved an early round or TWO he didn't get, and Hops deserved 12. This isn't complicated.

I have a nice little response ready but it's like beating a dead horse.

Hops was jobbed in the 12th as it stood. About half of the public knows this, some people think otherwise, some have no opinion. You know that nice little reel they played before the fight though? That spoke volumes about the feeling of the outcome of the fight (the one where all of those writers/analysts/journalists basically said "what the **** was Ford thinking").

[Manny_P]

yo i got a thread up bout tis Judge Ford on 12th round of Hop v Taylor. Check it out.