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  • LuKahnLi
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    #21
    Originally posted by restless_438
    alright, first and foremost, i completely ripped this idea off but i'd like to get all the thoughts from the boxingscene crew:

    2005 Boxing Awards

    Fighter Of The Year: gotta give it to Ricky Hatton

    Top Prospect: Allan Green

    Fight Of The Year: Corrales vs. Castillo I

    Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington (saw this one in person!)

    Biggest Upset: Either Raheem over Morales or Taylor over Hopkins (twice)

    Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I

    Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy

    Worst Fight Of The Year: DaVarryl Williamson vs. Chris Byrd

    Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)



    think back on the whole year and post yours....

    oh yeah, p.s. please no flaming here, let's all respect each others opinions here.

    I agree with your picks. Comeback of the year I would have to argue Antonio Tarver.

    Screw job of the year would have to be Anthony Bonsante VS. Jesse Brinkley. That was baaaaaad.

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      I called Hopkins/Taylor I the biggest screwjob because Duane Ford scored the 12th round for Taylor, a round that NO ONE scored for Taylor outside of Ford.

      Ford scores that round correctly, Hopkins retains his titles, all is well in the world.

      Now maybe some of you argue that "well there were some earlier rounds that [I think] Taylor won that were scored for Hopkins so that nullifies Ford's 12th round score", but two wrongs don't make a right and that's a SERIOUS logical fallacy. It stood that the fight was in line to be a draw but Ford SCREWED Hopkins out of his titles simple and plain.

      Now if anyone seriously wants to refute that then go ahead...I'd be glad to shoot your arguments down with the quickness

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      • restless_438
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        #23
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        I called Hopkins/Taylor I the biggest screwjob because Duane Ford scored the 12th round for Taylor, a round that NO ONE scored for Taylor outside of Ford.

        Ford scores that round correctly, Hopkins retains his titles, all is well in the world.

        Now maybe some of you argue that "well there were some earlier rounds that [I think] Taylor won that were scored for Hopkins so that nullifies Ford's 12th round score", but two wrongs don't make a right and that's a SERIOUS logical fallacy. It stood that the fight was in line to be a draw but Ford SCREWED Hopkins out of his titles simple and plain.

        Now if anyone seriously wants to refute that then go ahead...I'd be glad to shoot your arguments down with the quickness
        THANK YOU, please tell that to super_lightweight for me..

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        • oldgringo
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          #24
          Originally posted by restless_438
          THANK YOU, please tell that to super_lightweight for me..

          There isn't much to argue. SLW is a good poster and him and I disagree often, but as far as the 12th round aspect of the fight goes it was a screwjob.

          He's correct about a fight not being a robbery if it's extremely close and every round is razor thin. This particular case was an exception because the 12th round was NOT razor thin and even Taylor fans admit that Hopkins won that round.

          Again, this isn't basketball...there are no make-up calls. Two wrongs don't make a right and one cannot use the argument that, "oh well Hopkins won an earlier round that [i thought] he shouldn't have won so Ford just made up for it with the 12th round." That's a serious logical fallacy and if one did that anywhere else the case would be dismissed and overlooked. Every round must be scored individually and Ford basically scored the 12th round for Taylor because he thought he had won the overall fight so he just threw him that round.

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          • MickyHatton
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            #25
            I cannot agree that Taylor deserves fighter of the year.

            He's an excellent fighter but the two Hopkins fights were the most boring and uncommitted I have have seen for a long time.

            People have a lot to say about Hatton but he and Tzysu landed more punches in one round than Tailor and Hopkins landed in two fights.

            Just becuase Taylor beat the mighty Bernard Hopkins that does not make him a legend or a great champion, Hopkins is 40 years of age and way past his best yet he still more than competed with Taylor, some score cards had Hopkins the winner.

            So fighter of the year no, still Hatton for me, after all he did actually fight!

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            • JMCbulls
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              #26
              Fighter Of The Year: gotta give it to Ricky Hatton

              Top Prospect: Allan Green

              Fight Of The Year: Corrales vs. Castillo I

              Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington (saw this one in person!)

              Biggest Upset: Either Raheem over Morales

              Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I

              Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy

              Worst Fight Of The Year: hopkins taylor II

              Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)

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              • iron mike tyson
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                #27
                Fighter Of The Year: ricky hatton (followed closely by jt)

                Top Prospect: Allan Green

                Fight Of The Year: hatton vs tzyu

                Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington

                Biggest Upset: Either maussa vs harris

                Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I

                Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy

                Worst Fight Of The Year: joe calzage vs evans ashira

                Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)

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                • Super_Lightweight
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                  #28
                  hmm

                  Fights are not scored on one round. Therefore, my point still stands. I can take any round that Taylor should have gotten early that wasn't scored for him and say the same thing. If two wrongs don't make a right then how is the 12th round's inproper scoring any better an early round's inproper scoring?

                  Answer: It's not.

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                  • Manny_P
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                    #29
                    may I add that Freddy Roach should be Trainer of The Year!

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                    • FibreOptic
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Manny_P
                      Fighter of The Year: Ricky Hatton

                      Top Prospect: Ray Bautista

                      Fight of The Year: Corrales vs Castillo

                      Knockout of the Year: Rahman KO V. Klitszchko to Retirement

                      Biggest Upset: McBride beats Mike Tyson

                      Screwjob of The Year: Erik Morales vs Zaheer Raheem (judge 3)

                      Best is Yet to Come: Brian Viloria

                      Worst Fight of The Year: Winky vs Trinidad

                      Comeback of The Year: Jesus Chaves

                      Cheater of The Year: Jose Juis Castillo

                      Best Event of The Year: Vitali Klitschko Retirement
                      Shouldn't "cheater of the year" go to Diego Corrales for spitting out his mouthpiece twice and getting 40 extra seconds to recover?

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