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What does Floyd Mayweather need to do to be in the 10 top Greatest of all time?

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  • Floyd aint all about legacy, so the top 10 ATg status is out of the question.

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    • Originally posted by edgarg View Post
      They wouldn't have to be "tall, healthy" etc. With today's kind of training, and weighing in
      30-36 hours before the fight, they'd be a whole division lower. I mean a 145 lb welterweight of the 1950's could be a 137 lb lightweight, never mind a light-welter. Many of the welter champions were no more than 5'6", or 5'7".

      For example, Benny Leonard, possibly the best lightweight ever, and definitely a top 3, was only 5'5'. This was average, yet he was able to fight welterweight champions with ease, and had over 200 fights, losing less than a handful...............including his first fight. According to his bio, he didn't officially lose a fight for 22 years.......except when he was DQ against Jack Britton, the welterweight champ, for hitting him wnen he was taking a knee. It was a late rd and had him well beaten. it was boasted that he could go through a whole fight without even having his hair disarranged. And he fought in the toughest era.

      Britton is famous for the 20 fight series that he had with Ted "Kid" Lewis in which the title went back and forth several times. Kid Lewis was voted unanimously to have been the best British fighter of the 20th century. (just a little history-apologies).
      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
      Hey, that was his second fight after a nearly 3 year retirement, when he never thought he'd ever fight again. I saw that fight, his timing was way off and he didn't lose by that much.

      Although he was the middleweight champ when he fought Joey Maxim the Light-heavy champ he went into the ring weighing 156, and came out weighing 146, collapsing after the 13th rd when well ahead. He retired after this, and Jones was his 1st or 2nd fight in his come-back. He was 35 and already on the slide, although he re-won the title again a few times. Read up on the history of that Maxim fight. The ref collapsed from heat exhaustion in the 10th and had to be replaced. I think it was Ruby Goldstein ? Ringside temp was 105 or 110 degrees. Under the lights it was more.

      Tiger Jones beat a few champions, and fought many more. He was always a tough competitor for anybody, very highly regarded. He was built like **** Tiger.
      I Robinson was born May 3rd 1921 and he fought Jones on January 19th 1955 making him 33 years old so I am sorry to be a year off but you are 2 years off yourself. He was 33 years old when he lost to Jones and he never fought Jones again. That's all I said and it's the truth. I never said Jones was not a good fighter, the point was Robinson never rematched him. I'll check to see how they scored that fight. The Jones fight was his 2nd comeback fight. The weights for the Maxim fight were Robinson 157.5 and Maxim 173. I am famillar with the details of the Maxim fight. Robinson was ahead on points when he could not continue after round 13. It was a fine effort by Robinson.

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      • Ralph Jones had a record of 32 wins 12 loses and 3 draws when he fought Robinson. The official scorecards for that fight were 99 to 94, 98 to 89, and 100 to 88, all in favor of Jones.

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        • Originally posted by DTMB View Post
          not even close.

          a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers.

          Sweet Pea>Floyd

          by a country mile.

          Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents.

          IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap.
          I disagree. Pernell lost to De La Hoya and Trinidad and had a draw with Julio Caesar Chavez (although I thought he won hat fight). Pernell might have fought the bigger names but he came up short in many of his biggest fights. By the time he was Floyd's age he was CLEARLY out of his prime while Floyd at 35 is still going strong. Floyd has more wins in more weight classes while defeating more champions.

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          • no current fighter is gonna finish their career ranked that highly
            Floyd hasn't done nearly enough
            and he won't be around long enough to add more
            there's nothing for him that will boost him that high
            even if he beat Pac and unified at JMW, he's not reaching top 10 GOAT

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            • Originally posted by Truth View Post
              What does Floyd Mayweather need to do to be in the 10 top Greatest of all time?
              A miracle!

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              • Originally posted by Baracka Flocka View Post
                Point Blank. It will never be enough.

                People romanticize the past a great deal.
                Yeah basically this is the correct answer...

                But if u would ask for my opinion then i would say skill wise he is, but to crack it in the matters of legacy then the Pac fight needs to be made.

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