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What does Floyd Mayweather need to do to be in the 10 top Greatest of all time?
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wtf is this ****** crap?
Floyd has yet to defeat a bona fide hall of famer in their prime yet this question is being asked?
He's not even the most decorated/accomplished fighter of his generation let alone top 10 all time.
let let floyd beat a prime legit hall of famer first FFS.....
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Originally posted by PBP View PostDoes anybody have Floyd ranked higher than Sweet Pea?Originally posted by edgarg View PostThere have been oodles of "best middleweight in the world". Every few years one comes along. You are dreaming. Having held several division titles is easy to do these days, with a new division every 4-6 lbs. A fighter can wake up in obe division, and by the time he gets down to the weigh-in he's already in the lower division. Fighters these days possibly spend more time losing weight to artificially be eliglble for a lower division, to get height, weight and reach advantages, than they do actually training.
Same day weigh-in would clean out every division except Cruiser and Heavy.
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IT IS NOTHING HE CAN DO!
His ERA and this current ERA is too WEAK to move up any higher and that is certainly not a knock to him, Mayweather is a great fighter but he was TOO TALENTED AND TOO GOOD FOR HIS ERA and now this Current ERA, this current ERA is just a bunch of OVER HYPED, PROTECTED fighters who are GIVEN STARDOM, they don't earn it!
If your a good looking guy and can box just a little...you can become a star in boxing today hahaha
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Originally posted by Oh you out son View Postya i was thinking the same thing, Canelo really? (his best win is a 40 year old shot Mosley there for the paycheck). in my opinion, the best looking wins for floyds resume would be 1. pacquiao 2. martinez 3. khan (he might not be great, but he is very popular and many think he will be or is great)
i think all of those are winnable fights for floyd but each one of them would be harder for him than any fight he has currently had. and we all know the chances of him fighting these 3 before he retires are crazy low
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostI think he is alot better than Sweet Pea and I've seen them both fight at least 15 times each. Just my opinion.
a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers.
Sweet Pea>Floyd
by a country mile.
Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents.
IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap.
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostThey wouldn't have to be "tall, healthy" etc. With today's kind of training, and weighing in
30-36 hours before the fight, they'd be a whole division lower. I mean a 145 lb welterweight of the 1950's could be a 137 lb lightweight, never mind a light-welter. Many of the welter champions were no more than 5'6", or 5'7".
For example, Benny Leonard, possibly the best lightweight ever, and definitely a top 3, was only 5'5'. This was average, yet he was able to fight welterweight champions with ease, and had over 200 fights, losing less than a handful...............including his first fight. According to his bio, he didn't officially lose a fight for 22 years.......except when he was DQ against Jack Britton, the welterweight champ, for hitting him wnen he was taking a knee. It was a late rd and had him well beaten. it was boasted that he could go through a whole fight without even having his hair disarranged. And he fought in the toughest era. Once again you are correct. Most of the fighters from the same day weigh-in days could fight a division lower today.Hagler probably could have fought at 147 with the 36 hour BS. Duran might have fought at 126.You have guys weighing 20 lbs. more on fight night than they did at the weigh in.
Britton is famous for the 20 fight series that he had with Ted "Kid" Lewis in which the title went back and forth several times. Kid Lewis was voted unanimously to have been the best British fighter of the 20th century. (just a little history-apologies).
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Originally posted by DTMB View Postwtf is this ****** crap?
Floyd has yet to defeat a bona fide hall of famer in their prime yet this question is being asked?
He's not even the most decorated/accomplished fighter of his generation let alone top 10 all time.
let let floyd beat a prime legit hall of famer first FFS.....
Floyd is not even the greatest fighter in one decade...let alone these dummy are talking about him being a top 10 ATG.
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Originally posted by DTMB View Postnot even close.
a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers.
Sweet Pea>Floyd
by a country mile.
Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents.
IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap.
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