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  • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
    If you read the argument you absoulete dribbler, we were talking about Tyson and Lewis in their primes which was WHEN?

    EARLY 90's?

    Now either read the thread, or **** off.
    Then Tyson wasnt in his prime anymore. And Lewis has yet to prove **** at that time.

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    • Originally posted by goblin213 View Post
      Then Tyson wasnt in his prime anymore. And Lewis has yet to prove **** at that time.
      Tyson was in his prime at early 90's

      Lewis is older than Tyson, so he should of been proving it.

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      • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
        Tyson was in his prime at early 90's

        Lewis is older than Tyson, so he should of been proving it.
        Your parents must be siblings. That like arguing that Emile grffith is ranked higher that Leonard at welterweght according to most analyst and posting rankings written prior to Leonards domination of the WW division

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        • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
          Tyson was in his prime at early 90's

          Lewis is older than Tyson, so he should of been proving it.
          Lennox was a beast. Nobody get past Lennox easy.

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          • Originally posted by goblin213 View Post
            Your parents must be siblings. That like arguing that Emile grffith is ranked higher that Leonard at welterweght according to most analyst and posting rankings written prior to Leonards domination of the WW division
            You have as much boxing knowledge as a goldfish on *******.

            So basically you are saying Lewis didnt dominate it when Tyson was dominating it only when Tyson went to jail and Lewis was dominating bums?

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            • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
              You have as much boxing knowledge as a goldfish on *******.

              So basically you are saying Lewis didnt dominate it when Tyson was dominating it only when Tyson went to jail and Lewis was dominating bums?
              Well thats what your dumbass did. You said that most analyst rank Tyson hgher than Lewis and then you post a ranking written during EARLY 90sbefore Lewis had his best wins.

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              • Originally posted by goblin213 View Post
                Well thats what your dumbass did. You said that most analyst rank Tyson hgher than Lewis and then you post a ranking written during EARLY 90sbefore Lewis had his best wins.
                Infact, I didn't so again, you are a clueless ****.

                Back in 94 they were both fighting in their primes, with Tyson rated alot higher.

                Tyson therefore was the better fighter, Lewis fought bums to get to the top.

                From the 1999 Holiday edition:

                1. Muhammad Ali
                2. Joe Louis
                3. Evander Holyfield
                4. George Foreman
                5. Larry Holmes
                6. Rocky Marciano
                7. Sonny Liston
                8. Joe Frazier
                9. Jack Johnson
                10. Jack Dempsey
                11. Ezzard Charles
                12. James J. Jeffries
                13. Jersey Joe Walcott
                14. Mike Tyson
                15. Gene Tunney
                16. Harry Wills
                17. Sam Langford
                18. John L. Sullivan
                19. Max Schmeling
                20. Max Baer
                21. Floyd Patterson
                22. Ken Norton
                23. Rid**** Bowe
                24. Bob Fitzsimmons
                25. Joe Jeannette
                26. Jimmy Bivins
                27. Jerry Quarry
                28. Jack Sharkey
                29. Archie Moore
                30. Sam McVey
                31. Cleveland Williams
                32. Lennox Lewis
                33. Earnie Shavers
                34. Jim Corbett
                35. Ernie Terrell
                36. Michael Spinks
                37. Jimmy Young
                38. Zora Folley
                39. Ingemar Johansson
                40. Ron Lyle
                41. Tim Witherspoon
                42. Jimmy Ellis
                43. Mike Weaver
                44. Michael Moorer
                45. James J. Braddock
                46. Tommy Farr
                47. Tommy Burns
                48. Tommy Gibbons
                49. Pinklon Thomas
                50. Michael Dokes

                Read the date on that by the way, Lewis still not in his prime?

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                • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
                  Floyd was just beginning his pro career

                  I didn't say he fought at 106 in his pro career, did I?

                  Yup, it's an argument, and an opinion of many.
                  Where did you get this snippet from:

                  Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
                  2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Professional Fight-by-Fight Record. 1993. Michigan State Golden Gloves Champion, 106 pounds.
                  .
                  You also said he came up from 106. i guess Arreola came up from 147, I'll have to revisit my p4p.

                  On Judah, terrible argument, you might as well say Judah is overrated by many. You know, by those that have him as all time anything. He was once as contender for all time washout, but he bowed out of that race

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                  • Originally posted by Andyreww View Post
                    Infact, I didn't so again, you are a clueless ****.

                    Back in 94 they were both fighting in their primes, with Tyson rated alot higher.

                    Tyson therefore was the better fighter, Lewis fought bums to get to the top.

                    From the 1999 Holiday edition:

                    1. Muhammad Ali
                    2. Joe Louis
                    3. Evander Holyfield
                    4. George Foreman
                    5. Larry Holmes
                    6. Rocky Marciano
                    7. Sonny Liston
                    8. Joe Frazier
                    9. Jack Johnson
                    10. Jack Dempsey
                    11. Ezzard Charles
                    12. James J. Jeffries
                    13. Jersey Joe Walcott
                    14. Mike Tyson
                    15. Gene Tunney
                    16. Harry Wills
                    17. Sam Langford
                    18. John L. Sullivan
                    19. Max Schmeling
                    20. Max Baer
                    21. Floyd Patterson
                    22. Ken Norton
                    23. Rid**** Bowe
                    24. Bob Fitzsimmons
                    25. Joe Jeannette
                    26. Jimmy Bivins
                    27. Jerry Quarry
                    28. Jack Sharkey
                    29. Archie Moore
                    30. Sam McVey
                    31. Cleveland Williams
                    32. Lennox Lewis
                    33. Earnie Shavers
                    34. Jim Corbett
                    35. Ernie Terrell
                    36. Michael Spinks
                    37. Jimmy Young
                    38. Zora Folley
                    39. Ingemar Johansson
                    40. Ron Lyle
                    41. Tim Witherspoon
                    42. Jimmy Ellis
                    43. Mike Weaver
                    44. Michael Moorer
                    45. James J. Braddock
                    46. Tommy Farr
                    47. Tommy Burns
                    48. Tommy Gibbons
                    49. Pinklon Thomas
                    50. Michael Dokes

                    Read the date on that by the way, Lewis still not in his prime?
                    Fighters hit their prime differently man..

                    Some fighters especially hw's prime is 31-32 years+

                    Wlad is in his prime now and he's 35..

                    Heavyweights age differently, its really rare someone like Tyson hit his prime so early and then died before he was even 30..


                    If we are talking prime for prime.. The debate of Prime Lewis vs Prime Tyson can take up 400 pages...

                    If we are talking career wise overall

                    well in recent years with both fighters done,, the vast majority of boxing ****zines and pundits got lewis ahead of tyson..

                    As we all linked already.

                    But prime for prime like I said it's debatable

                    Lewis avenged both his losses bro.. tyson didn't avenge anything

                    Also Lewis made the count against Mccall. he was cheated.

                    not to mention that version of Olivier Mccall will brutally KO the post prison Tyson if Tyson hadn't duck Mr Iron Fist Olivier

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                    • Originally posted by larryx2013 View Post
                      Point is i can't believe anyone who is suppose to be a fan of the sport would even have to ask this question.............how can Duran NOT be an ATG?

                      ^^^^^^^This.

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