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  • #41
    He came in at 151 right? He can compete in both

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    • #42
      Originally posted by tatangb45 View Post
      If Floyd opts to stay at 154, he will have to face stronger, taller and heavier challengers with longer reach. He could also again be challenged by Martinez at 154.

      If he goes back to 147, there is only one fight that people are clamoring for and are waiting for to happen. But everyone, except his diehard fans, knows that Floyd does not want that fight and it is obvious that he will find every excuse to avoid it from happening.

      From the looks of it, it seems that Floyd has put himself in a spot. He may have realized this that's why he is hinting about another retirement.
      Good question tatangb45! I am actually surprised you asked this because you are kind of an idiot...but I will answer anyway!

      This is one of those situations where Floyd is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, and damned if he does anything else.
      If he goes down to 147, the fight with Pacquiao won't happen because Floyd want's too much money, Arum want's too much money and Pacquiao is a b1tch who can't think for himself. So Floyd will fight someone else and he will be seen as ducking Pacquiao.
      If he stays at 154 he can either fight Martinez or fight.....Canelo? Or someone else. If he fights that someone else, it will be seen as if he is ducking Martinez and Pacquiao by staying at 154. If he does fight Martinez at 154, either one of two things will happen. He will beat a weight drained Martinez OR he will get beat by a weight drained Martinez, either way he loses.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Rolaz View Post
        Let him stay at 154 and continue to avoid the dangerous Pacman and Martinez;

        Let him fight a "safety first" fight against Casamayor, a return bout with Hatton, Dela Hoya, Judah, Ortiz, and lastly against Marquez at 40 yrs old!
        Didnt stop Pacquiao fighting Marquez at 40. Pacquiao actually boxed and older Delahoya, boxed the same hatton. Ortiz was WBC welterweight champion at the time. And everyone was calling for the Judah fight when they went toe to toe.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
          Good question tatangb45! I am actually surprised you asked this because you are kind of an idiot...but I will answer anyway!

          This is one of those situations where Floyd is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, and damned if he does anything else.
          If he goes down to 147, the fight with Pacquiao won't happen because Floyd want's too much money, Arum want's too much money and Pacquiao is a b1tch who can't think for himself. So Floyd will fight someone else and he will be seen as ducking Pacquiao.
          If he stays at 154 he can either fight Martinez or fight.....Canelo? Or someone else. If he fights that someone else, it will be seen as if he is ducking Martinez and Pacquiao by staying at 154. If he does fight Martinez at 154, either one of two things will happen. He will beat a weight drained Martinez OR he will get beat by a weight drained Martinez, either way he loses.
          Perfect summary.

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          • #45
            Wherever the big money fight that can be made should be where he fights. If at big money fight can be made at 147 that's where he should fight and the same for 154.

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            • #46
              Floyd is still a 147lber. It's not like he completely bulks up and packs it on to 154lb to where he cannot comfortable weigh in at 147. When he fights at 154, he still weighs in at 149-151. And I doubt that's bulking muscle and solid weight. I think that's LESS training for bulking up/weight and more for strategy. So he can be more comfortable if he's walking around at 155-159.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by KingKhan1 View Post
                Perfect summary.
                I'm a big Floyd fan, but he's the one who has marked Pacman for making guys come down in weight. So he'll come off hypocritical if he asks to fight Martinez at anything below 160. Now Martinez seems perfectly content on making 154 for a fight with Mayweather, but even then, people will fault Mayweather even if Martinez is willing and easily able to do so.

                But if Mayweather were to beat Martinez, he would have his detractors, but the record books will have Mayweather with a victory over a top 3 P4P fighter who is already a small Middleweight who used to fight at 154 and voluntarily moved down vs being forced down.

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                • #48
                  Mayweather is a cherry-picker. Great boxer, though. He's cherry-picked a 2012 Cotto, 2007-2008 and Mayweather would be in big trouble.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by egodfather View Post
                    Mayweather is a cherry-picker. Great boxer, though. He's cherry-picked a 2012 Cotto, 2007-2008 and Mayweather would be in big trouble.
                    It happens with all greats. Cotto and team said he wasn't ready. Cotto today I believe is better than that Cotto. Now Cotto of 2007-2008, you have to remember we're talking a 2007-2008 Mayweather who was probably faster and more mobile himself. I don't think Cotto would have ever beaten Mayweather. It's not like a 2012 Mayweather is any younger.

                    Pacman didn't fight a pre Mayweather Hatton, a pre Mosley Margarito, a pre Mayweather Mosley, a pre Margarito Cotto. He's caught just as many fighters after some beatings or later in their careers.

                    It happens.

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                    • #50
                      He should stay at 154 in my opinion.

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